Canadian Air Frce against U.S. Air Force - Aircraft of World War II

Jank · 11-21-2005, 07:06 PM

Was having a discussion with a chap who just got out of the Canadian Air Corp who was satying that in mock figher engagements, Canadian fighter pilots usually win against U.S. pilots.

Is that really true?

Nonskimmer · 11-21-2005, 07:13 PM

I for one wouldn't know, but it's become my understanding that an awful lot of US Airforce fighter pilots these days are reservists. I guess I should be asking if that's true. If so, it could explain a thing or two about that.

Canadian pilots are good though, you can bet on it.

To my knowledge though (and I could be wrong), Canadian fighter pilots haven't actually been in real air to air combat in quite some time, although they have conducted actual air to ground sorties.

pbfoot · 11-21-2005, 07:19 PM

I'm gonna listen awhile

Nonskimmer · 11-21-2005, 07:21 PM

Well give us the inside scoop, Air Force boy.

pbfoot · 11-21-2005, 07:26 PM

i'll wait it might surprise you

Nonskimmer · 11-21-2005, 07:29 PM

In a good way or a bad way? I hate nasty surprises, they always cause me to drink.

No wait, maybe that ain't so bad.

102first_hussars · 11-21-2005, 08:00 PM

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To my knowledge though (and I could be wrong), Canadian fighter pilots haven't actually been in real air to air combat

Not since Korea, unless you count those two snowbirds colliding.

The Canadian Airforce along with the Navy take after Britains moder day tactics so yeah theyre really well trained, I think its safe to say that we are of envy for our Discipline, Profesionalism and all around skill, but in return we are envious of the fact that everyone else has better toys than we do.

pbfoot · 11-21-2005, 08:04 PM

102 please share your knowledge

FLYBOYJ · 11-21-2005, 08:04 PM

I knew guys who flew exchange - American in Canada and visa versa - it's a tough call. I have found the CAF very professional and they seem to take care of the little they have.

I think it's going to depend on equipment, the sceniro and tactics, but the Canadians will always be fighting grossly outnumbered.....

102first_hussars · 11-21-2005, 09:01 PM

"fighting grossly outnumbered....."

You have just hit the Bullseye on that one man, I was just brushing up on my History earlier toaday, Reading about such battles as, Hong Kong and Kowloon, Korea 38th paralell(my regiment got an American award for that one), Newfoundlanders at Beaumont Hamel, Battle of Caan and many others. all through our history of war weve been outnumbered.

Nonskimmer · 11-21-2005, 09:06 PM

The outnumbered thing is a bit of a no brainer at this point.

Wait a minute, what the hell am I laughing at?

102first_hussars · 11-21-2005, 10:26 PM

Your from Nova Scotia, youre probably laughing cuz your mom fell down the stairs

pbfoot · 11-21-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars

"fighting grossly outnumbered....."

You have just hit the Bullseye on that one man, I was just brushing up on my History earlier toaday, Reading about such battles as, Hong Kong and Kowloon, Korea 38th paralell(my regiment got an American award for that one), Newfoundlanders at Beaumont Hamel, Battle of Caan and many others. all through our history of war weve been outnumbered.

what citation did the loyal edmonton guys get from US

Nonskimmer · 11-21-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars

Your from Nova Scotia, youre probably laughing cuz your mom fell down the stairs

Huh? Seriously, I don't get it. Oh wait right, that was a joke or something.

102first_hussars · 11-22-2005, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pbfoot

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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars

"fighting grossly outnumbered....."

You have just hit the Bullseye on that one man, I was just brushing up on my History earlier toaday, Reading about such battles as, Hong Kong and Kowloon, Korea 38th paralell(my regiment got an American award for that one), Newfoundlanders at Beaumont Hamel, Battle of Caan and many others. all through our history of war weve been outnumbered.

what citation did the loyal edmonton guys get from US

Well the Loyal Eddies is a part of the PPCLI, they got an American Citation.

Anyway FBJ put it quite well, however these days training though a big part is useless if the enemy has more and better tools than you do, if a group of Cf-18s fought head on with a group of American F15's The Canadians would pounce maybe taking down 1 or 2 planes depending how fast the f-15's respond to evade, then once the F-15's manage to pull themselves together and get into the fight we might be looking at an even ratio, However If we ever did meet head on it probably be against F-22's in which we would had our asses kicked, thats my imagination, Pb foot is or was in the Canadian Air Force maybe he can give you a nicer picture then I did.

11-21-2005, 07:06 PM	#1
Jank Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 679	Canadian Air Frce against U.S. Air Force Was having a discussion with a chap who just got out of the Canadian Air Corp who was satying that in mock figher engagements, Canadian fighter pilots usually win against U.S. pilots. Is that really true?

11-21-2005, 08:04 PM	#9
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,050	I knew guys who flew exchange - American in Canada and visa versa - it's a tough call. I have found the CAF very professional and they seem to take care of the little they have. I think it's going to depend on equipment, the sceniro and tactics, but the Canadians will always be fighting grossly outnumbered..... __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

11-21-2005, 09:01 PM	#10
102first_hussars Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 2,259	"fighting grossly outnumbered....." You have just hit the Bullseye on that one man, I was just brushing up on my History earlier toaday, Reading about such battles as, Hong Kong and Kowloon, Korea 38th paralell(my regiment got an American award for that one), Newfoundlanders at Beaumont Hamel, Battle of Caan and many others. all through our history of war weve been outnumbered. __________________ Hello me...meet the real me. And my misfits way of life. A dark black past is my Most valued possession. Hindsight is always 20-20, But looking back its still a bit fuzzy. Speak of mutually assured destruction? Nice story...tell it to readers digest!!!

11-21-2005, 10:26 PM	#12
102first_hussars Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 2,259	Your from Nova Scotia, youre probably laughing cuz your mom fell down the stairs __________________ Hello me...meet the real me. And my misfits way of life. A dark black past is my Most valued possession. Hindsight is always 20-20, But looking back its still a bit fuzzy. Speak of mutually assured destruction? Nice story...tell it to readers digest!!!

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11-21-2005, 07:13 PM	#2
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	I for one wouldn't know, but it's become my understanding that an awful lot of US Airforce fighter pilots these days are reservists. I guess I should be asking if that's true. If so, it could explain a thing or two about that. Canadian pilots are good though, you can bet on it. To my knowledge though (and I could be wrong), Canadian fighter pilots haven't actually been in real air to air combat in quite some time, although they have conducted actual air to ground sorties.

11-21-2005, 07:19 PM	#3
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,586	I'm gonna listen awhile

11-21-2005, 07:21 PM	#4
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Well give us the inside scoop, Air Force boy.

11-21-2005, 07:26 PM	#5
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,586	i'll wait it might surprise you

11-21-2005, 07:29 PM	#6
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	In a good way or a bad way? I hate nasty surprises, they always cause me to drink. No wait, maybe that ain't so bad.

11-21-2005, 09:06 PM	#11
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	The outnumbered thing is a bit of a no brainer at this point. Wait a minute, what the hell am I laughing at?