Car Modifications - Aircraft of World War II

plan_D · 03-03-2008, 03:56 PM

Since there seems to be a slight interest in cars on this forum; I thought I'd start a thread on "real-life" car modifications. I'm interested in cars, and consider cars a part-time hobby (money + time permitting). I'm planning on doing up my 206XS with a new audio system (decent speakers, no subs or OTT audio system - just 2 x tweeters, 4 x mid-range 'n 2 x woofers - 200 Watt Amp in back , and a nice head unit - seen one for £130 that'll suit my needs!) and tweak the engine a little to get it over 100 BHP !!!!

No lowering though - bad experiences in my friends 80mm lowered Polo GT - like shaken spine !

My first port of call will be a replacement of the airbox n' filter with BMCs Carbon dynamic airbox - it'll sound sweet and give me extra 2 - 3 ponies.

ANYWAY, anyone else mod cars as a hobby ... or even PROFESSION ( I know at least one of you lot do)

Heinz · 03-03-2008, 08:28 PM

Nice Plan D. Good Luck

My old man and myself have restored a few classic bikes.

I'm starting a car build soon once I get some space!

Thorlifter · 03-04-2008, 12:26 AM

I had a couple "project" cars. My first was a '78 Monte Carlo. I took a 350 out of a 1970 Corvette, put 400 heads on it, Weiland highrise intake with duel 1100 Street Dominator carbs. Ended up on the Dyno producing 350+ HP at 375 pounds of torque. In 1985, it would run the 1/4 mile at 12.5 seconds at 128 mph. Basically, the only production car that could beat it was the twin turbo Porsche 911. It was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast for it's time.

Sounds like you have a nice start Plan_D. Best of luck with it.

Screaming Eagle · 03-04-2008, 03:46 AM

nice thor! I just plan on doing a tidy up on mine but when I get some room I want to do up a car with dad, some nice aussie muscle.

Lucky13 · 03-04-2008, 07:31 AM

Aussie....? Muscle...?? Car...???

Screaming Eagle · 03-04-2008, 07:35 AM

yeah! of course lucky we have a few tough mopars of our own!

Heinz · 03-04-2008, 08:03 AM

Fuggin damn right

And GMs and Fords!

Lucky13 · 03-04-2008, 08:23 AM

Sorry if came out a bit cheeky or what not fellas....don't know much about Aussie muscle cars, Mopar, Ford OR GM...actually know nothing about it...

Wouldn't mind to get educated in the subject at hand, so feel free to show and tell....and you know me lads..no modern (beep)...

Thorlifter · 03-04-2008, 09:23 AM

Just whatever you guys do, do NOT put those stupid mufflers on your car that makes it sound like a lawn mower.

If you have a 4 cylinder, just accept it. A Briggs and Straton muffler isn't going to make it sound like a V8.

Lucky13 · 03-04-2008, 09:36 AM

When it comes to engines...."there's no substitute for qubic inches".... Love V-8 and larger, there's some nice V-6's though....Ferrari etc.

Negative Creep · 03-04-2008, 12:05 PM

I've always been into modifying cars. My current car is a Nissan 200SX which just needs an air fuel controller to be set up for around 300bhp. As for your car, nothing wrong with lowering although once you get in the realms of 80mm you'll not only be destroying ride comfort but adversely affecting suspension geometry. Lower it 40mm or so on decent shocks and springs and you'll be fine. Bare in mind the 206 has a torsion bar rear suspension which is a pig to lower and hence any lowering kit will only have 2 springs.

As for audio, upgrade your front speakers first as they are the ones closest to your ears so the most important in overall quality. I think they're 17cm (could be wrong) but go for something form JBL, Pioneer, Infinity or Alpine. As for the head unit, I go for Pioneer or Alpine every time. Don't bother with Sony or JVC as they aren't up to much and aren't that reliable.

Finally, one word of warning. You'll never get back what you spend when it comes to selling the car, so don't get carried away. Also, more mods can mean a lot more to go wrong (I can tell you that from experience!) Hope that helps.

wilbur1 · 03-04-2008, 12:12 PM

tinker toys for me

plan_D · 03-04-2008, 12:59 PM

They are 17cm ...

I've got a Pioneer P6000 lined up for my head unit - 4x50W at 135 quid. I'm then looking at Hertz ESK 165 component set 150W (maximum). And then get another set of mid-range for the back. I might whoop out the cut out parcel shelf 'n get one from a scrappers.

I know I'll never get the money back but we don't spend when we're dead - I want some fun, it'll be me hobby. Plus I don't know much about cars in real terms, so I'm gonna have fun learning.

My mate with teh Polo GT is goin for a four branch stainless manifold next week. My job next week is changing the right hand drive shaft.

Oh and thor, don't worry - I accept the four cylinders - can't stand those anals who put stupid exhausts on 'n make 'em sound dumb. All my sound is going to be natural - not much , but it'll do.

Lucky13 · 03-04-2008, 01:06 PM

If I had the money, time AND the bl**dy licence....I'd love to build a correct replica of a NASCAR racer from the 50's and the 60's....

A Fred Lorenzen #28 63-64 Ford, Fireball Roberts #22 Ford, Junior Johnson #3 Chevy or Dodge, David Pearson #6 Dodge or a Petty #43 Plymouth....

Just to roam on the streets at night to teach those boy racers/diaper hunters a lesson or two in manners etc....

(....and to learn Nascar history)

plan_D · 03-04-2008, 01:11 PM

A 1.6 8v 206 whoops most of these boy racers in their 1.2 Corsas with the super induction kit that apparently gives 'em 20 BHP , and their exhaust that gives 'em a million ponies.

03-03-2008, 03:56 PM	#1
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	Car Modifications Since there seems to be a slight interest in cars on this forum; I thought I'd start a thread on "real-life" car modifications. I'm interested in cars, and consider cars a part-time hobby (money + time permitting). I'm planning on doing up my 206XS with a new audio system (decent speakers, no subs or OTT audio system - just 2 x tweeters, 4 x mid-range 'n 2 x woofers - 200 Watt Amp in back , and a nice head unit - seen one for £130 that'll suit my needs!) and tweak the engine a little to get it over 100 BHP !!!! No lowering though - bad experiences in my friends 80mm lowered Polo GT - like shaken spine ! My first port of call will be a replacement of the airbox n' filter with BMCs Carbon dynamic airbox - it'll sound sweet and give me extra 2 - 3 ponies. ANYWAY, anyone else mod cars as a hobby ... or even PROFESSION ( I know at least one of you lot do) __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

03-04-2008, 07:31 AM	#5
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	Aussie....? Muscle...?? Car...??? __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

03-04-2008, 08:03 AM	#7
Heinz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posts: 6,742	Fuggin damn right And GMs and Fords! __________________

03-04-2008, 08:23 AM	#8
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	Sorry if came out a bit cheeky or what not fellas....don't know much about Aussie muscle cars, Mopar, Ford OR GM...actually know nothing about it... Wouldn't mind to get educated in the subject at hand, so feel free to show and tell....and you know me lads..no modern (beep)... __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

03-04-2008, 09:23 AM	#9
Thorlifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 4,346	Just whatever you guys do, do NOT put those stupid mufflers on your car that makes it sound like a lawn mower. If you have a 4 cylinder, just accept it. A Briggs and Straton muffler isn't going to make it sound like a V8. __________________

03-03-2008, 08:28 PM	#2
Heinz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posts: 6,742	Nice Plan D. Good Luck My old man and myself have restored a few classic bikes. I'm starting a car build soon once I get some space! __________________

03-04-2008, 12:26 AM	#3
Thorlifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 4,346	I had a couple "project" cars. My first was a '78 Monte Carlo. I took a 350 out of a 1970 Corvette, put 400 heads on it, Weiland highrise intake with duel 1100 Street Dominator carbs. Ended up on the Dyno producing 350+ HP at 375 pounds of torque. In 1985, it would run the 1/4 mile at 12.5 seconds at 128 mph. Basically, the only production car that could beat it was the twin turbo Porsche 911. It was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast for it's time. Sounds like you have a nice start Plan_D. Best of luck with it. __________________

03-04-2008, 03:46 AM	#4
Screaming Eagle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 3,552	nice thor! I just plan on doing a tidy up on mine but when I get some room I want to do up a car with dad, some nice aussie muscle. __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity." - Hitman! - The Technical Guide for the Independent Contractor.

03-04-2008, 07:35 AM	#6
Screaming Eagle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 3,552	yeah! of course lucky we have a few tough mopars of our own! __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity." - Hitman! - The Technical Guide for the Independent Contractor.

03-04-2008, 09:36 AM	#10
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	When it comes to engines...."there's no substitute for qubic inches".... Love V-8 and larger, there's some nice V-6's though....Ferrari etc. __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

03-04-2008, 12:05 PM	#11
Negative Creep Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Plymouth Posts: 819	I've always been into modifying cars. My current car is a Nissan 200SX which just needs an air fuel controller to be set up for around 300bhp. As for your car, nothing wrong with lowering although once you get in the realms of 80mm you'll not only be destroying ride comfort but adversely affecting suspension geometry. Lower it 40mm or so on decent shocks and springs and you'll be fine. Bare in mind the 206 has a torsion bar rear suspension which is a pig to lower and hence any lowering kit will only have 2 springs. As for audio, upgrade your front speakers first as they are the ones closest to your ears so the most important in overall quality. I think they're 17cm (could be wrong) but go for something form JBL, Pioneer, Infinity or Alpine. As for the head unit, I go for Pioneer or Alpine every time. Don't bother with Sony or JVC as they aren't up to much and aren't that reliable. Finally, one word of warning. You'll never get back what you spend when it comes to selling the car, so don't get carried away. Also, more mods can mean a lot more to go wrong (I can tell you that from experience!) Hope that helps. __________________ "We attack tomorrow under cover of daylight" "Daylight sir?" "Yes it's the last thing they'll be expecting, a daylight charge over the minefield"

03-04-2008, 12:59 PM	#13
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	They are 17cm ... I've got a Pioneer P6000 lined up for my head unit - 4x50W at 135 quid. I'm then looking at Hertz ESK 165 component set 150W (maximum). And then get another set of mid-range for the back. I might whoop out the cut out parcel shelf 'n get one from a scrappers. I know I'll never get the money back but we don't spend when we're dead - I want some fun, it'll be me hobby. Plus I don't know much about cars in real terms, so I'm gonna have fun learning. My mate with teh Polo GT is goin for a four branch stainless manifold next week. My job next week is changing the right hand drive shaft. Oh and thor, don't worry - I accept the four cylinders - can't stand those anals who put stupid exhausts on 'n make 'em sound dumb. All my sound is going to be natural - not much , but it'll do. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. Last edited by plan_D; 03-04-2008 at 01:01 PM.

03-04-2008, 01:06 PM	#14
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	If I had the money, time AND the bl**dy licence....I'd love to build a correct replica of a NASCAR racer from the 50's and the 60's.... A Fred Lorenzen #28 63-64 Ford, Fireball Roberts #22 Ford, Junior Johnson #3 Chevy or Dodge, David Pearson #6 Dodge or a Petty #43 Plymouth.... Just to roam on the streets at night to teach those boy racers/diaper hunters a lesson or two in manners etc.... (....and to learn Nascar history) __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

03-04-2008, 01:11 PM	#15
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	A 1.6 8v 206 whoops most of these boy racers in their 1.2 Corsas with the super induction kit that apparently gives 'em 20 BHP , and their exhaust that gives 'em a million ponies. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

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