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08-16-2007, 12:19 AM
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| CIA (& Vatican) Changing Wiki Just seen this. We all know Wiki is dodgy but it's interesting the CIA are using it rubbish Iran. Perhaps more surprising is that the vatican is protecting the reputation of Gerry Adams of the Sinn Fein. Seems you can't trust anyone nowadays!! BBC NEWS | Technology | Wikipedia 'shows CIA page edits' An online tool that claims to reveal the identity of organisations that edit Wikipedia pages has revealed that the CIA was involved in editing entries. Wikipedia Scanner allegedly shows that workers on the agency's computers made edits to the page of Iran's president. It also purportedly shows that the Vatican has edited entries about Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams. |
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08-16-2007, 05:49 AM
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| Gerry Adams was not charged and convicted of anything for the crime, right? So what's the big deal with that one? Everyone always loves to take a swing at the Catholic Church - it doesn't matter for what reason. Not saying he was a saint, as he was the Provos top dog. But, don't you think the authorities would have nailed him to a wall and built a case in the past 30 years since then regarding it? Besides, even if the changed was initiated through a Vatican computer by an individual - does that really mean official Papal policy??? Everyone knows the shortcomings and limitations of wiki.
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08-16-2007, 11:04 AM
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| Not commenting at all on Adam's involvement in terrorism (direct or just political? I vote direct, but I think he was seen as a useful conduit so left alone) just on the fact it was a vatican (rather than Sinn Fein) computer used to make the changes. |
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08-16-2007, 12:34 PM
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| Der Crewchief   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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The Catholic Church preaches how it is only the "True" Church and that other religions including Protestant Christian Religions are not real. Thats Bull!!! Basically according to the Catholic Church because I am a Protestant Lutheran I am not a true believer. I just got done reading a magazine from the Catholic Church called "Envoy" at work today and among saying that the Catholic Church is the only True Chuch it also said that getting Tattooed is a sin.... ...Well I guess I am going to hell then according to the Catholics.
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08-16-2007, 02:52 PM
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The Catholic Church does believe in ONE Christian Church - hence the term Catholic. You're right about that. There's many reasons for that, and it is a whole other discussion in itself - not related to this thread. Where do you get your information that says a non-Catholic Christian cannot be a "true believer" in Christ... whatever you mean by that term.
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08-16-2007, 03:41 PM
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| No offense to the arguement but all religions think they are "The one". Don't know any religion that preaches "We're number 2, right after the Muslims/Jews/Christians/Hindus". Ya' know, what's the point in being a religion if your salvation is less (officially and unoffically) effective than the other guy. |
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08-16-2007, 03:49 PM
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| Wiki can be edited by anyone right? Aren't the CIA and The Vatican "anyone" also? Libtards have been using skewed "WeeWeePeePee" entries to back up their own socialist agenda. Why are they angry when others do the same? This is why I try to avoid "WeeWeePeePee". |
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08-16-2007, 03:55 PM
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Hell my wife who is Catholic no longer wants anything to do with the Catholic Church. She still is a Christian and believes in the Bible and Jesus but she says she is turned off by the Catholic Church's ways. Quote:
That is what through me over the edge because I had just read this magazine at work the other day. ENVOY magazine is back! Get a free issue!
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08-16-2007, 09:53 PM
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08-16-2007, 10:01 PM
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| At least you are a straight shooter, Adler. I have to respect that. I'm not sure which particular article you are referring to in that magazine - I've never heard of it before. I'm not sure what's in it, but the Catholic doctrine does not state that a non-Catholic Christian is not an actual and true believer in Christ. I do not know why you believe that. Back to the article, my point was that a change being made from a computer owned by an entity does not necessarily mean that entity approves as such. You have a good point Tim. What religion espouses a set of beliefs, but also throws in that they're wrong and another set of beliefs may actually be right!? That would defy logic! Uhhuh - what the heck is weeweepeepee???
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08-16-2007, 10:17 PM
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| In our local papers here they say edits on wiki have emminated from our Gov't computers also but these seem to be indviduals using gov't computers as opposed to the chumps running the gov't |
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08-17-2007, 01:24 AM
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08-17-2007, 11:42 AM
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| You mean the press got it wrong?! Nah, never happens!  |
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08-17-2007, 04:50 PM
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| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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I will tell you though that magazine scared me. The things that I read in it reminded me of a Christian version of a Extreme Islamic group.
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08-17-2007, 05:10 PM
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| CIA, FBI computers used for Wikipedia edits
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