Fistfight in a high school. One teenager dies.

[Maestro]

How ?

We check ID cards to make sure they are over 18. (The things about the 15-17 years old bastards I stated earlier is because I don't only work in nightclubs.)

In the worst places, they already check in the backpacks, hand bags and on the client's body to see if there is any weapon/drug.

In the worst sh*tholes of Québec City there is something like 15 doormen. The last time I saw as many doormen at the nightclub I work at is when McGill College came here for their "end of session" party three years ago.

It's alright to make a place safer. But how can we do better if we already do our best?

[102first_hussars]

I know, im 36 but every now and then ill go to Whyte Ave, but no, people get stabbed, beer bottles to the face ALL THE TIME OUT HERE

not too long ago a guy from Ontario got his ENTIRE nose bit off over at Bar Wild

[Njaco]

If we had more fist fights instead of gun battles things might be better. Philadelphia is seeing an enormous amout of gun deaths last year and this and its stupid stuff. A fist fight, MOST times you walk away. Of course this is last resort. I'm not advocating anyone fight if it can be talked out but if it gets nowhere and you're pushed....

Cops have one of the roughest. They're disrespected on TV every second with so-called scenes of brutality and people pick up on this and don't respect them when confronted.

2 years ago several cops in my town pulled over some guy who was speeding. He mouthed off at them, they didn't back down, he got abusive, they arrested him, he kicked, punched, spit and the police went back at him. All on dash cam.

All charges dropped on the punk and three cops suspended and facing serious charges.

Last week another family called police to help with a family member who was suicidal. Police arrive, talk, try to calm things down. Kid (20yo) goes upstairs, gets a shotgun and fires two shots down stairwell. Officer fires two shots in response and gets everyone out of house , calls backup. Two more shots from inside and kid is dead, suicide. Parents now blame the police.

Its a disrespect for those who protect us fostered by the media and what we get are police who are sometimes confused what to do.

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The problem I always found with a punch up is at the beginning I think the guys a moron and he thinks Im a moron.
At the end I think he's a bigger moron and he thinks I'm a bigger moron, the only difference is that the winner is the only one who can still say it

[evangilder]

Well said, Lee. But there are times when you have to do what you have to do. I had a shop clerk years ago come at me with a box cutter. I dislocated his shoulder and knee to get his attention. He held still until the police arrived. And it all started because I told him to stop being a bully to a customer.

I made sure before I reacted that I was in full view of the security cameras in case he did something real stupid.

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I agree Eric two guys tried to mug my brother a couple of years ago so he planted a thumb up to the knuckle in one of the guys eye balls the other one just legged it but it could of been much worse if he hadn't made the first move.
So I definitely see (pardon the pun) where your are coming from sometimes it is unavoidable.
Fortunately my last encounter with a, I want to fight the world guy at work ended by me asking him how old he was did he have any kids and how he would feel if his family lost their home because he was banged up in prison and not paying the mortgage, as I would make sure not only was his arse prosecuted off but he would be instantly dismissed. mind you he wasn't drunk as that kind of argument falls on deaf ears.