Following Iraq's bioweapons trail - Page 4 - Aircraft of World War II

FLYBOYJ · 04-17-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Civettone

As the US is behind in paying its bills for the amount of a billion and a half US dollars, and as the EU is paying more than the US, I don't think the UN will manage economically without the US.

The EU is not a sovereign nation in it self, it is an economic union of several countries - apples and oranges.

Hunter368 · 04-17-2007, 11:50 AM

Joe,

The skuds did not have chemicals in them did they?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 04-17-2007, 11:51 AM

Good post there FBJ. Yes it is true that the stuff that has been found so far is outdated and probably would not have worked however there is evidence that better quality stuff is in Syria and Iran now.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 04-17-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter368

Joe,

The skuds did not have chemicals in them did they?

No

Civettone · 04-17-2007, 12:15 PM

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Civettone do you really think that the Press knows and finds out everything.

Why do you keep bringing that up? Where did I mention the press? I mentioned the Iraqi Survey Group. If they say no WMDs were found, why would I doubt them? A professional 1,000 men team organized by the CIA and Pentagon who have said from the beginning that there were WMDs now say there weren't any.

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The EU is not a sovereign nation in it self, it is an economic union of several countries - apples and oranges.

The EU is aa sovereign political body with legal right of its own. The EEU was an economic union, perhaps you're confusing the EU with that?

Kris

Erich · 04-17-2007, 12:20 PM

whoa wait a minute did you not hear repeatedly on many of the news stations broadcasted even from the mid-east that the EU admins were restricted from seeing - looking into certain areas and that restriction was placed because it was not suitable for them to enter nor see until cleaned up. we have intel reprorts of at least 3 spots.

wmds have been found Kris and I can tell you know more than that from a personal standpoint. It has already been mentioned that even the Pres and his cabinet were not given the full reports and turht into the matter and only by political pressure did he hae to come on TV media and say we have found none. iraq and Iran/Syria are vast areas of expanmase, lets be real the media is not everywhere in that area, and more troops US and otheriwse are finding cute little toys that are been found and slowly and with respect opened.

as for the thing in Israel when they wer bombarded by Skuds did you know that at least 2 destroyed had chemicals on board and only by shear resolve and the US influence that Israel did not attack in return with a massive thundering air-strike ~ i am revealing too much .......

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 04-17-2007, 12:25 PM

All I can say is this. I have seen things with my own eyes. I guess to some here I must have been blind or decieved by my own eyes.

The truth will come out eventually and the nay sayers and non believers will be sitting on there ass's feeling like ass's.

FLYBOYJ · 04-17-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter368

Joe,

The skuds did not have chemicals in them did they?

No they were conventional, but they were on the WMD list.

Hunter368 · 04-17-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich

whoa wait a minute did you not hear repeatedly on many of the news stations broadcasted even from the mid-east that the EU admins were restricted from seeing - looking into certain areas and that restriction was placed because it was not suitable for them to enter nor see until cleaned up. we have intel reprorts of at least 3 spots.

wmds have been found Kris and I can tell you know more than that from a personal standpoint. It has already been mentioned that even the Pres and his cabinet were not given the full reports and turht into the matter and only by political pressure did he hae to come on TV media and say we have found none. iraq and Iran/Syria are vast areas of expanmase, lets be real the media is not everywhere in that area, and more troops US and otheriwse are finding cute little toys that are been found and slowly and with respect opened.

as for the thing in Israel when they wer bombarded by Skuds did you know that at least 2 destroyed had chemicals on board and only by shear resolve and the US influence that Israel did not attack in return with a massive thundering air-strike ~ i am revealing too much .......

Can you talk about those two scuds anymore Erich? Details? Links? anything?

FLYBOYJ · 04-17-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Civettone

The EU is aa sovereign political body with legal right of its own. The EEU was an economic union, perhaps you're confusing the EU with that?

Kris

Is the EU as a whole a UN member? No. Each member had an independent vote. If that was a case then all members of the EU should surrender their sovereignty, have one UN vote and then your argument would be valid. You can't have it both ways.

Hunter368 · 04-17-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

No they were conventional, but they were on the WMD list.

Sorry Joe,

I am confused (sometimes that is easy LOL), why would conventianal Skuds be on the list for WMD?

Sorry if I am asking you a very simple question.

I am just 10 years past evolutionally walking on my knuckes.

Erich · 04-17-2007, 12:31 PM

which skuds ? the ones found in Iraq ? just to let you know mine was at an earlier time and from that it was quite apparent what Saddam was acquiring and trying to work out with his scinece techs advised by some pretty interesting Soviet folk.

Adler is on the monies, but I feel it will never come out as the truth and we will see the effects in the future especially if we are forced to pull out with the winners of the 08 elections

there IS SO MUCH behind the scenes information withheld here on this or any other forums for good reason ............... it is called "FRICKING SECURITY"
so enough of this self proclaimed denial BS from anyone that there were no wmd's or other biologicals.

Hunter I know because i was .......... skuds are an excellent short range carrier with several different warhead adaptions. i'll say no more except let your mind wander. you can see why we have been watching the little snip from north Korea and his ever bogus rocket firings towards Hawaii. the gift zwerg has the mobility and if he gets his puddgy little hands on something which he so wants to do then the world will reap the whirlwind

FLYBOYJ · 04-17-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter368

Sorry Joe,

I am confused (sometimes that is easy LOL), why would conventianal Skuds be on the list for WMD?

Sorry if I am asking you a very simple question.

I am just 10 years past evolutionally walking on my knuckes.

Hey no problem...

The SKUDS were put on the WMD list because of the problems they caused during GW1 and their ability to be armed with chemical or biological weapons. If Iraq had 1 or 100 they still had a weapon on the WMD list....

Hunter368 · 04-17-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

Hey no problem...

The SKUDS were put on the WMD list because of the problems they caused during GW1 and their ability to be armed with chemical or biological weapons. If Iraq had 1 or 100 they still had a weapon on the WMD list....

I see. Thanks

Erich · 04-17-2007, 12:35 PM

do not foget what was found even through TV media.............Iraq/French and Soviet chemical suits in abandoned and partially buried in the sands bunkers

View Poll Results: Did Iraq still have WMD's?
Yes Iraq had WMD's	9	75.00%
No Iraq did not have WMD's	2	16.67%
Not sure but there is more to it than has been released to the public.	1	8.33%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

04-17-2007, 11:50 AM	#47
Hunter368 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,240	Joe, The skuds did not have chemicals in them did they? __________________ "Ivan the Terrible or Russian Achilles" Ivan Kozhedub - Hero of the USSR (x3), Order of Lenin (x2), Order of Red Banner (x7), Order of Alexander Nevsky, Order of the Great Patriotic War (x2), Order of the Red Star (x2), 62 kills during 1943-1945

04-17-2007, 11:51 AM	#48
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Good post there FBJ. Yes it is true that the stuff that has been found so far is outdated and probably would not have worked however there is evidence that better quality stuff is in Syria and Iran now. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

04-17-2007, 12:20 PM	#51
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	whoa wait a minute did you not hear repeatedly on many of the news stations broadcasted even from the mid-east that the EU admins were restricted from seeing - looking into certain areas and that restriction was placed because it was not suitable for them to enter nor see until cleaned up. we have intel reprorts of at least 3 spots. wmds have been found Kris and I can tell you know more than that from a personal standpoint. It has already been mentioned that even the Pres and his cabinet were not given the full reports and turht into the matter and only by political pressure did he hae to come on TV media and say we have found none. iraq and Iran/Syria are vast areas of expanmase, lets be real the media is not everywhere in that area, and more troops US and otheriwse are finding cute little toys that are been found and slowly and with respect opened. as for the thing in Israel when they wer bombarded by Skuds did you know that at least 2 destroyed had chemicals on board and only by shear resolve and the US influence that Israel did not attack in return with a massive thundering air-strike ~ i am revealing too much ....... __________________ Rip it up !

04-17-2007, 12:25 PM	#52
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	All I can say is this. I have seen things with my own eyes. I guess to some here I must have been blind or decieved by my own eyes. The truth will come out eventually and the nay sayers and non believers will be sitting on there ass's feeling like ass's. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

04-17-2007, 12:31 PM	#57
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	which skuds ? the ones found in Iraq ? just to let you know mine was at an earlier time and from that it was quite apparent what Saddam was acquiring and trying to work out with his scinece techs advised by some pretty interesting Soviet folk. Adler is on the monies, but I feel it will never come out as the truth and we will see the effects in the future especially if we are forced to pull out with the winners of the 08 elections there IS SO MUCH behind the scenes information withheld here on this or any other forums for good reason ............... it is called "FRICKING SECURITY" so enough of this self proclaimed denial BS from anyone that there were no wmd's or other biologicals. Hunter I know because i was .......... skuds are an excellent short range carrier with several different warhead adaptions. i'll say no more except let your mind wander. you can see why we have been watching the little snip from north Korea and his ever bogus rocket firings towards Hawaii. the gift zwerg has the mobility and if he gets his puddgy little hands on something which he so wants to do then the world will reap the whirlwind __________________ Rip it up ! Last edited by Erich; 04-17-2007 at 12:34 PM.

04-17-2007, 12:35 PM	#60
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	do not foget what was found even through TV media.............Iraq/French and Soviet chemical suits in abandoned and partially buried in the sands bunkers __________________ Rip it up !

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