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03-06-2007, 02:31 PM
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| aka Dickcheese   Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| French GIGN - Bravo! You won't hear this from me often, but kudos to the French anti-terrorist unit.  Old footage, but quite compelling. YouTube - GIGN IN ACTION 1994, islamic terrorists killed
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03-07-2007, 01:04 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deep in suburban Surrey
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 |  That's hardcore! Go Frenchies! Impressive stuff all round - the ladder thing was a bit of a ****-up, but they all got in and kicked some butt, so it came good in the end... 
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03-07-2007, 01:06 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deep in suburban Surrey
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| Male chicken is censored? how droll! 
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03-07-2007, 01:08 PM
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| aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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|  I love you Brits.
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03-07-2007, 01:14 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deep in suburban Surrey
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| I love us as well 
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03-07-2007, 07:04 PM
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| Minister of Whoopass  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Sh!t, 4 terrorists in a cockpit, and u get 10 guys wounded??? Fu*k that.... That was amateur time...
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03-07-2007, 10:26 PM
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| aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| Okay, Les. Lets have your game plan.
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03-07-2007, 10:55 PM
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| Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Well first a Janssen Motor Sling would be thrown over the top nose section, which allows 2 men to be simultaneously lifted from each end, using a battery operated motor.... 2 snipers at conflicting angles cover the cockpit (one at actual camera footage location)... Have entry team at door and hit the cockpit windows and door at the same time.... Gas and stun grenades go first.... blah blah blah... BTW, I have an unfair advantage cause we prepped for the same Op in 95, usin this tape as a background on what not to do.... It was amateur night like I said... We kinda made fun of them...
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03-08-2007, 12:46 PM
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| aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| Was your scenario with the goblins all in the cockpit? My first thought was that any scenario would result in mass killing inside with pistols and AKs. They were just to stupid not to carry out their evil. And a motor slin over the cockpit? How does that work with the sloping nose and no protuberances on which to anchor?
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03-08-2007, 06:23 PM
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| Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Magnetic attachments which are high power and controllable from a remote... The scenario did involve all 4 baddies in the cockpit, including 2 pilots... Flash bangs work wonders guys...
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03-09-2007, 12:28 AM
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| aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| Hmmm. Magnets on aluminium... You first. 
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03-09-2007, 08:06 AM
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| Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| There is a steel sub-structure where the nose area mates with the fuselage...
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03-10-2007, 06:54 AM
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 | can't seem to open the video but les is the GSG9 and SAS raid on the airliner in Mogadishu still used as an instructional example?
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03-10-2007, 09:01 AM
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| Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| For Detachments that are going to handle anti-terrorism scenarios, yes it is to an extent, as certain tactics have changed over the years...
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03-10-2007, 12:34 PM
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| Der Crewchief  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| How did GSG9 Handle there scenerio. I remember hearing abou tit but cant remember exactly how it went down and if it went down well.
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