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    Full warp ahead Mr. Scott!

    Well, not exactly but getting closer...

    Antimatter Atoms Trapped for First Time?"A Big Deal"


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    Nice! Next, they need to figure out antigravity, so we can get our flying cars.


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    You said it RA!!!!!!!

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    Wouldn't get my hopes up RA, since gravity isn't a real force any than centifugal force is real. The former a consequence of mass warping spacetime and the latter a consequence of inertia

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    Pshaw! Mere trivialities! </English accent>


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    I want a plasma phase rifle in the 40 watt range!


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    It would make rabbit hunting a little more exciting.

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    Actually if I understand my science from watching the Elegant Universe correctly, there is actually a particle called the Gravitron. The reason why it is weaker than a lot of the other forces that we know about is because it is actually free to float into other dimensions. Scientists think they may have caught a glimpse of this process in one of the particle accelators but they are not quite sure yet...

    Therefore, if this is the true nature of gravity then there is no reason to think that we might not be able to work out how to switch it on and off...

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    The Graviton as an actual particle carrier of the gravitational force was a strictly made-up entity when theoretical physicists where still hoping that a GUT (Grand Unification Theory) could actually include all field-effect forces: Strong Force between Quarks (carrier: Gluon); Electromagnetic between charged particles(carrier: Photon)and Weak Force Beta-Decay (Carrier W & Z Particles). Both light and time are warped by gravitational fields there cannot be a particle exchange without mass and photons are massless, yet light is bent by gravitational fields. The beam of light is merely following the warped spacetime produced by the presence of mass.
    Additionally if gravity had a carrier particle, gravity would have a speed and that would have to be equal to or less than the speed of light. Thus we'd be able to measure the Speed of Gravity
    Now if CERN can generate the elusive Higgs particle we'll know why objects have mass
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    I don't know much about the science of warp drive but I'm pretty sure you'd need a really big propeller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewint View Post
    Now if CERN can generate the elusive Higgs particle we'll know why objects have mass
    'Cuz God said so.


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    CERN is on course to discover the Higgs bosun, just a question of time. It is all very cool!


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    That's of course if it actually exists.
    And as for Warp Drive, it actually does not "drive" the ship, it (warp drive) warps the local spacetime like a very very large mass and the ship, simply slides down the distorted spacetime continuum much like a sled on a snowhill.

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    But hang on Mikewint, that is making a rather big assumption isn't it that the speed of light is the universal cosmic speedlimit? I know Einstein said it was, but then we found out about other things which he ignored such as the world of the microscopic. Whereas gravity we know can effect light. Because we know that the laws of physics go weird around black-holes. We know that black-holes superconstraint the gravity of the space around them. Also we know that light tends to travel in waves. Because of the effect of the black-holes we know that gravity affects light. Therefore I'm not sure that in an experiment where you turned off a sun that the light would cease before the gravity, both together or whether gravity would cease before light.

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