Fw-190 History - BS!

the lancaster kicks ass · 06-25-2005, 02:54 PM

rate my fish tank is a favourite of mine.......

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-27-2005, 03:49 PM

Now that one I went to and it gave me some inspiration for my tanks when my house is built.

cheddar cheese · 06-27-2005, 03:52 PM

Cool. No idea why you would want to put a fish in a tank though, tey dont have opposing thumbs, have low developed brains and cannot drive.

evangilder · 06-27-2005, 04:13 PM

Fish tanks are awesome! I have 2. Aside from moving them, which I recently did, they are great. I find them to be very relaxing.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-27-2005, 04:20 PM

LOL CC

I agree even. I enjoy watching them swim around it relaxes me quite a bit.

the lancaster kicks ass · 06-27-2005, 04:31 PM

ok i was planning on starting annother thread for this but whilst we're talking about them.....

i am interested in getting some fish, just a couple, hopefully angel fish, and was wondering what kind of looking after they need.........

evangilder · 06-27-2005, 05:47 PM

Personally, I would avoid angels. The reason is they tend to have a low immunity due to overbreeding and while some are hardy, a majority are not. Are you looking to start a bowl, or a tank? There are a number of things to think about when dealing with a tank, like heaters, filtration, decorative rocks and plants, etc.

Don't let anyone talk you into doing a nitrogen cycle with fish in the tank! It's very hard on the fish and the ones that manage to survive will have a shortened life cycle. Most fish stores will have you do that with fish. Having done this hobby for many years, I can tell you that is the absolute wrong way to go. You won't have happy, or healthy fish. The bad news doing it that way is you have a tank for about a month with no fish, but when it is ready for fish, they will thrive.

We could start a fresh topic on fish tanks. I could give you some tips that will save you some time, heartache and money.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-28-2005, 10:58 AM

I think we should start a new topic on fist tanks rather than flood this one with talk about them.

evangilder · 06-28-2005, 11:50 AM

If there is interest, sure. Otherwise, I'll just get back on topic or shut my pie-hole!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-28-2005, 11:56 AM

No no, dont take me wrong even I was just agreeing with you about it.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-28-2005, 11:59 AM

Actually it does not matter, thi website discussed in this thread is not worht discussing anyhow.

plan_D · 06-28-2005, 12:26 PM

Just do it here, I think everyone recognises that website as the biggest joke since the Munich Pact. So, just flood this with your fish talk.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-28-2005, 01:44 PM

Sounds good to me then, if no one else cares.

the lancaster kicks ass · 06-28-2005, 01:46 PM

ok thanks evan, ok if not angel fish black widow tarka or black angel tarka (i think that's what they're called) and what would be the difference between getting a tank and bowl??

evangilder · 06-28-2005, 02:26 PM

There are alot of differences between a tank and a bowl. Mainly, it's the fish. If they don't need heaters or filtration and you want just one or 2 fish, then it's alright. Also you can't have big fish in a bowl. Personally, I would never have a bowl for fish. They are more hassle than they are worth to me. Plus bowl fish are kind of boring.

I am not familiar with Tarkas, so I am not sure about them. I used to keep African Cichlids, which are cool fish, but they are pretty aggressive and if you aren't careful, you will be netting out dead ones on a regular basis. I still have 2 that are getting along, but I probably won't have another main tank of them because of the aggressive tendencies.

Good starter fish that are nice fish too are Platys and Swordtails. I have both in my tank with some black skirted Tetras. Neon Tetras are cool, but they are very small and don't do well if you have a power filter as they have a tendency to get sucked into the inlets, or stuck to the inlet. I learned the hard way on that one because my filter is 320 gallons/hour flow rate.

Tanks come in a variety of sizes and shapes, and price ranges. 10-20 gallons are good starters and I am not sure about England, but in the US, you can get a fairly nice 20 gallon starter tank for a reasonable price that has everything you need to get started (tank, filter, light hood and heater). The rest, like gravel, decorative rock and plants are pretty cheap. Just watch the rock types as some can leach chemicals into the water. Same with driftwood. Driftwood will leach tannic acid into the water which some fish will be fine with, others will not tolerate it well.

First find a tank you like and get what you want to put into it. Then, while running the nitrogen cycle, which typically takes 4-6 weeks, you can research what fish are available locally and what their temperaments and agressivenesses are. Also check the pH levels in your local water source and check that with the fish you want.

Sound like a lot of work? Kind of, but a well thought out and planned tank will give you a tank that will thrive and give you years of enjoyment. I have an African Cichlid that I have had for 4 and a half years that has been in three different tanks and is healthy and thriving. Conversely, lack of fore-planning on a tank will give you perpetual headaches and takes all the fun out of it, plus will cost you money to replace fish and/or equipment.