Gunman kills 21 on Virginia Tech campus

[mkloby]

Originally Posted by FalkeEins

..these people are usually disaffected psycotic former students with a grudge...and of course gun control would make it a bit harder than being able to buy an assault rifle over the counter no questions asked..

..mind boggling ...elsewhere in the free world we just sit here and wonder at the stupidity of it all...

Belated - but define assault rifle for me please. Next, tell me how an armalite is different from another semi-auto rifle or carbine? Assault weapons are a catch phrase from gun control nuts that actually have no real meaning. In NJ an M1 is banned as an "assault weapon!" (or was when I left)

You also seem proud of yourself that you stated that basically he had some bolts loose and a grudge, but my 3 month old son that can't talk could have told you that. I gather nothing else from your postings that you do not understand the US gun control laws (federal, state, nor local) and how they work or effect the citizenry. As Flyboyj pointed out, the majority of crimes are done w/ illegally procured firearms. NJ has some very strict gun control laws - it isn't helping there, is it? Instead, what you have is a society where the criminals are armed to the teeth, law abiding citizens are disarmed, and the police in many areas are overburdened.

[Lucky13]

Can't ANY KIND of weapon be a assault weapon??

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

Can't ANY KIND of weapon be a assault weapon??

Yep - and it depends on the politicians. The "Assault Weapon" phrase came from California assemblyman Roberti when he did a little homework and read about assault rifles. Trying to sound like he knew what he was talking about he came up with the term "Assault Weapon."

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Just figured I would add a poll to see what others opinions on the matter are. Please vote.

[FLYBOYJ]

Wilco...

[Matt308]

And thus spawned the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban. A laundry list of weapons both by features and by name. Mags limited to 10rds, no bayonet lug, and a list of other feature deemed evil in certain combinations. But the bayonet lug ban had to be the most emotional tripe ever put to law. Made the gun grabbers feel better though!

[Matt308]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Just figured I would add a poll to see what others opinions on the matter are. Please vote.

Did you want the WMD poll in the VTech thread, Adler?

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Matt308

And thus spawned the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban. A laundry list of weapons both by features and by name. Mags limited to 10rds, no bayonet lug, and a list of other feature deemed evil in certain combinations. But the bayonet lug ban had to be the most emotional tripe ever put to law. Made the gun grabbers feel better though!

I own an SKS - yep, I had to remove the bayonet (which I would use as a "Cy-pod" when I went shooting). Like I'm really going to go and "bayonet" someone . I'd like to see if there are any recoreded murders in the US for anyone gettig bayoneted by an SKS. The stupidasses that made the ban didn't realize that an SKS could shoot with the same lethally as an AK-47; it was just a bit longer.

[Matt308]

Do you own the Yugo Model 59 with the evil grenade launcher or have one of the old Russian or Chinese versions? I have the Russian version in pristine shape. Built like a tank.

[pbfoot]

Flyboy assholes are equally distributed amongst the world we have a our fair share.In fact we have a whole political party just for them However the vetting process to purchase the weapon was bogus... an alien and a certified nut was able to purchase a weapon no questions asked . The check was cursory and he didn't show up on the computer and the dealer said "he had VA ID and a credit card " if the guy from Deliverance is the first check I would be worried
I believe a lot of folks in the US would state any further checks would be violating their rights. Well the alien certainly violated 32 peoples rights and if preventing such a mishap would save those kids lives "check me out I've nothing to fear".
plain and simple not everyone is qualified or stable enough for a weapon and checks should be in place just like the ones we have for the purchase of explosives

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by Matt308

Did you want the WMD poll in the VTech thread, Adler?

OOOps thanks for pointing that out. I had both up at the same time. I am going to remove this one and put it in the other thread.

[Matt308]

Originally Posted by pbfoot

Flyboy assholes are equally distributed amongst the world we have a our fair share.In fact we have a whole political party just for them However the vetting process to purchase the weapon was bogus... an alien and a certified nut was able to purchase a weapon no questions asked . The check was cursory and he didn't show up on the computer and the dealer said "he had VA ID and a credit card " if the guy from Deliverance is the first check I would be worried
I believe a lot of folks in the US would state any further checks would be violating their rights. Well the alien certainly violated 32 peoples rights and if preventing such a mishap would save those kids lives "check me out I've nothing to fear".
plain and simple not everyone is qualified or stable enough for a weapon and checks should be in place just like the ones we have for the purchase of explosives

But Pb the laws are already on the books. He was not supposed to be able to purchase a handgun. EVER! We shouldn't be grabbing guns, but wondering why his mental facility commitment was not caught in the background check. You don't ban cars because the DMV gave an illegal a drivers license.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Matt308

Do you own the Yugo Model 59 with the evil grenade launcher or have one of the old Russian or Chinese versions? I have the Russian version in pristine shape. Built like a tank.

Mine is Chinese. Once I got all the cosmoline out it never misfired.

Originally Posted by pbfoot

Flyboy assholes are equally distributed amongst the world we have a our fair share.In fact we have a whole political party just for them However the vetting process to purchase the weapon was bogus... an alien and a certified nut was able to purchase a weapon no questions asked . The check was cursory and he didn't show up on the computer and the dealer said "he had VA ID and a credit card " if the guy from Deliverance is the first check I would be worried
I believe a lot of folks in the US would state any further checks would be violating their rights. Well the alien certainly violated 32 peoples rights and if preventing such a mishap would save those kids lives "check me out I've nothing to fear".
plain and simple not everyone is qualified or stable enough for a weapon and checks should be in place just like the ones we have for the purchase of explosives

The guy should not of been out in public to begin with...

"Authorities on Wednesday disclosed that more than a year before the massacre, Cho had been accused of sending unwanted messages to two women and was taken to a psychiatric hospital on a magistrate's orders and was pronounced a danger to himself. But he was released with orders to undergo outpatient treatment."

That's where the whole mess started, not at the background check, which by the way never existed until the anti-gun lobby got it written into Federal law.

[pbfoot]

Originally Posted by Matt308

But Pb the laws are already on the books. He was not supposed to be able to purchase a handgun. EVER! We shouldn't be grabbing guns, but wondering why his mental facility commitment was not caught in the background check. You don't ban cars because the DMV gave an illegal a drivers license.

Thats exactly what I was saying the laws are already on the books but but appear to be cosmetic checks rather then real. If I remember correctly when these laws were enacted the complaint was that they were toothless but had been watered down during the legislative procedure to ensure that they would pass

[Matt308]

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

That's where the whole mess started, not at the background check, which by the way never existed until the anti-gun lobby got it written into Federal law.

...with the pro-gun lobby support.