Hurricane Katrina and Me...

P38 Pilot · 09-10-2005, 08:19 PM

Im actually agreeing that we have the military handle it. Govt usually isnt the best choice with disasters.

Nonskimmer · 09-10-2005, 08:26 PM

What the hell are they afraid of? That someone might come down with something? The folks in New Orleans are already swimming in a cesspool of disease for god's sake! Distribute the damn food already!

evangilder · 09-10-2005, 09:51 PM

Exactly. But then, what we think makes sense. God forbid they do that

GT · 09-11-2005, 03:01 AM

Cancelled.

P38 Pilot · 09-11-2005, 07:20 AM

Uhhh... for the love of god, Bush is not jinxed! Was FDR jinxed when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor? Was he jixned when we entered the largest war ever and lost over 400,000 american soldiers lifes?

Now whats going on in New Orleans is crazy. Civilains shooting at police and National Guardsmen for trying to rescue their sick. Thinking its "teaching them a lesson."

Now those people aren't going to settle down. Infact Alabama is making home to alot of them and are probably living of taxes like they probably were back in New Orleans.

Im not pointing fingers to who started what. But I think that the governor or the mayor should talk to their people and tell them that they are going to be alright. But, not once have i seen the mayor OR the governor down there.

At least President Bush went to check out what was going on and even donated some money.

lesofprimus · 09-11-2005, 08:02 AM

The Mayor of New Orleans never left New Orleans.... He stayed throughout the storm and has been criticizing the Federal response since Katrina hit.....

The Gov of LA is a stupid bitch that needs to resign....

evangilder · 09-11-2005, 08:59 AM

Agreed, Les.

I don't believe in people being "jinxed". Sometimes, things happen. When Pete Wilson was Governor of California, we had the worst of times, riots, fires, floods and earthquakes. There were no hordes of locusts and the four horsemen of the apocalypse never showed up. People said that about Pete Wilson. I disagreed and still do. I feel it's just luck of the draw who is in power when bad things happen.

It is times like these that separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to leadership though.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 09-11-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by P38 Pilot

Ok, ok. Every one relax and come down, or is it just me?

Relax and come down for what!? Do you not like the fact that we are not patriotic eneogh like you that we see the faullts of our own government. Grow up, sorry man but right now this precious government is failing. Anyone can see that. I am proud to be an American just as much as you, but damn man wake up!

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Originally Posted by P38 Pilot

At least President Bush went to check out what was going on and even donated some money.

Hello again wake up and open your eyes. The Federal Government has not done crap. Oh whoop de do, Bush came to visit, what has he done since. Dont realize that the federal government has botched this whole recovery effort? Actually read the newspapers and watch the news and maybe you will see this. Being a patriot does not mean that you have to agree with your government the whole time and all the time. You are allowed to dislike, disagree, or admit something is wrong because you are free.

evangilder · 09-11-2005, 04:08 PM

This whole effort, or lack thereof has been a mess. Calm down? I don't think so. I live in earthquake land, so there may come a time that we may need to feds to help out. After this mess, I realize that we are going to be just as ****** as the folks in NO. I have always been prepared with provisions, but now I see there will be some other things needed, including plenty of ammo.

I have lived in peace for the last 20 years since I have been out of the service, but if some sorry SOB threatens my family, the will find themselves at room temperature, and well ventilated.

Glider · 09-11-2005, 06:52 PM

There was an interesting article in a paper today that described the reaction to the 1906 earthquake that flattened large parts of San Francisco
The timeline goes like this.

5.12 am Earthquake strikes 5.12 with no warning
7.45 am all troops in the area fully deployed by General Funston acting on his own initiative.
8.00 am Mayor Schmitz (A violinist by profession) warns all looters that they will be shot
During the main part of the day
Mayor orders Army to blow up houses to form firbreaks (it was the fires that did a lot of damage)
Mayor orders Army to Commandeer boats to run shuttle service to outliying cable services that are running.
Navy and Revenue Cutter Service acting with the Mayor set up rescue ferries and fireboats.
America wakes up to the news.
Congress authorises all funds and required legistlation
11.00pm The first relief train from Los Angeles arrived in Berkley
Day 2 4.00 am William Taft Secretary for war orders millions of rations and further supply trains including the largest hospital train ever to start heading for the area.
By the end of the first week every tent in the Quartermaster-Generals stock was in San Fransisco.

That was pretty impressive by any standards and shows what people can do when they are able to take the intiative.

evangilder · 09-11-2005, 07:55 PM

Good info there and you are right, shows what can happen when it is done right. One of my relatives was in the military at the time and earned a medal for his assistance in the aftermath. I have the article around here somewhere.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 09-12-2005, 05:20 AM

For as much as I serve this governmetn I am ashamed about how they reacted to this disastor.

Erich · 09-12-2005, 11:57 AM

ah but which government Adler ? local in Louisiana or the Feds ?

P38 Pilot · 09-12-2005, 08:14 PM

Im against the govt in Louisiana.

Nice info there! Mayor had commen sense, especially the part about shooting any looters during the main part of the day!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 09-13-2005, 11:57 AM

I think the Feds and the Louisiana Governer failed.