 | Israeli Nuke Strike On Iran Averted ?| OFF-Topic / Misc. Discuss Israeli Nuke Strike On Iran Averted ? in the Current forums; Originally Posted by Matt308
Oh sweet irony. That would be funny.
Sweet irony would be if it fell out of ... |
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04-19-2007, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308  Oh sweet irony. That would be funny.  | Sweet irony would be if it fell out of the sky on Tehran itself.
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04-20-2007, 11:15 AM
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BOOM!!
...world peace.
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04-20-2007, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 If I'm not mistaken, the Luftwaffe decomissioned the F-4 in 2005. | Not for recon purposes. I had one fly over my Blackhawk at about 5000ft last year. He was maybe 250 to 500 ft over us.
Here are the squadrons that use each aircraft:
JG 71 "Richthofen" - F-4
JG 74 - F-4
JG 73 - Eurofighter
JG 31 "Boelke" - Tornado
JG 32 - Tornado
JG 33 - Tornado
JG 51 "Immelmann" - Tornado
NATO Joint Fighter Training School - T-37 and T-38
Flugbereitschaft des Bundesministerium der Veteidigun (Defense Mininstry) - Airbus A 310 and CL-601
Lufttransport Geschwader 61 - C-160D
Lufttransport Geschwader 62 - C-160D
Lufttransport Geschwader 63 - C-160D
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04-20-2007, 11:53 AM
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Country: | I corrected my post yesterday. You are right. I show they still have about 55 on the books. That's quite a few actually.
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04-20-2007, 11:59 AM
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#65 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Oh, and Adler, my apologies. Germany is still using about 55 F-4s according the my sourcebook. | Sorry I had not read that part yet.
Yeap they will all soon be gone though with the Eurofighter. The recon duties of the F-4 will also be gone with the Recon Tornados like the ones sent to Afganistan a few weeks ago.
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04-20-2007, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Not for recon purposes. I had one fly over my Blackhawk at about 5000ft last year. He was maybe 250 to 500 ft over us. | I was fortunate enough to be “buzzed” by two F-22's in our Cessna 414 over the Sierra Nevada’s. Our pilot heard them on the radio and asked them for a flyby and they complied. They were 1000-1500 feet away.
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04-20-2007, 01:41 PM
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04-20-2007, 02:36 PM
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No translation needed me thinks.
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Originally Posted by comiso90 I was fortunate enough to be “buzzed” by two F-22's in our Cessna 414 over the Sierra Nevada’s. Our pilot heard them on the radio and asked them for a flyby and they complied. They were 1000-1500 feet away. | That must have been cool.
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04-20-2007, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet That must have been cool. | The setting of Sierra made it even more cool. We were in between Las Vegas and Central Cal. It was nice of them to give some tax payers a look at the latest hardware... the pilots didn't have to do that... we appreciated it very much.
On another trip, I saw a B-2 about 2500 ft below us near Edwards AFB. The thing looked like it didn't belong in the air. Seeing one from above was a interesting perspective.
Those F-4 must have been a sight.... mean and dirty
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04-20-2007, 05:52 PM
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#72 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Ever seen a C-130 do NOE flight? We were flying at about 2200ft and below us in the Low Level Training area was a C-130! That was pretty cool.
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Country: | I worked with a guy who was an AOPA rep. He was a C-130 driver and had recently completed his Air-to-Air training. Apparently it involved high speed NOE evasion in mountainous terrain. When the Red Force aircraft came in for a run, they would turn into the engagement. He claimed (I think a bit dubiously) that his likelihood of escaping such an encounter was high due to the inherent maneuverability of the Herc versus the high speed of the Red Force aircraft. Interesting discussion nonetheless.
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04-20-2007, 06:24 PM
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Country: | Thats crazy! I have respect for those guys though. After seeing how they flew out of Iraq to keep from getting hit by Manpads! Fricken crazy with such a plane. My hats off to the Herc.
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04-20-2007, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Thats crazy! I have respect for those guys though. After seeing how they flew out of Iraq to keep from getting hit by Manpads! Fricken crazy with such a plane. My hats off to the Herc. | Does JATO have practical applications or has it been religated to airshows and '72 Buicks?
This last weekend I was at the Long beach Grand Prix. Right after the National Anthem, I expected to see the obligitory F-18's screaming by but instead they sent a C-17. It banked on it's wigtip and was pretty darn low. I was suprised at how much i enjoyed seeing that lumbering bus cruise by.
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