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04-20-2007, 06:32 PM
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#76 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | JATO? I don't know. Blue Angels still use them in airshow so does that mean they are still in the inventory? Probably.
I've posted this before, but the McChord AFB hosts a yearly show. And the C-17 steals it everytime with STOL, backing up, and as you noted turning on its wing at speeds that look like they defy physics. Impressive aircraft to say the least.
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04-20-2007, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by comiso90 Does JATO have practical applications or has it been religated to airshows and '72 Buicks? | For takeoff when the aircraft is heavy or needs to get off the ground quickly I guess they could use it. I dont know I never worked with 130s. I only flew on them into Kosovo one time and in and out of Iraq a few times.
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04-20-2007, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 JATO? And the C-17 steals it everytime with STOL, backing up, and as you noted turning on its wing at speeds that look like they defy physics. Impressive aircraft to say the least. | I'm happy that u said that. I thought I was a dork for thinking that a transport plane was so cool.
It looked like the pilot was going to do a barrel roll
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04-20-2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by comiso90 I'm happy that u said that. I thought I was a dork for thinking that a transport plane was so cool.
It looked like the pilot was going to do a barrel roll | No - you're not a dork for thinking that. All of us in the military (except maybe the Tom Cruise jet jock types  ) think that the C-17 is friggen awesome. I sure do!
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04-20-2007, 10:36 PM
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Country: | Until you'be seen it, you really can't imagine such maneuvers by such a large airplane.
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04-21-2007, 03:14 PM
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04-21-2007, 03:45 PM
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Beautiful! A cross between a starship and a whale with an attitude.
Are those canards on the engines? why?
I always dimissed the C-17 as just a newer version of the C-141 with STOL ability... Boy was I wrong! that is an awsome war bird. I'm glad i got to see it maneuver in person...
When will there be a AC-17?
That needs to be a new thread! great pic!
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04-21-2007, 03:57 PM
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Country: | Vortex generators. You have probably seen the vortex generators on other aircraft (see the Javelin below).
For STOL, these aircraft generally must operate at low speeds during takeoff and landing, so the flow speed over the wings tends to be low as well. Aircraft like the C-17 use vortex generators to create a higher-speed flow over the wings and control surfaces at these conditions to improve performance and controllability. In the case of the C-17, the vortex generators are located on the sides of the engine nacelles rather than on the wings but they still produce the same beneficial effects.
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04-21-2007, 05:46 PM
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Country: | I don't believe the USAF has any plans for an AC-17. They still have the AC-130s. Also, the C-17 is large, and a workhorse as their medium long hauler.
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04-21-2007, 05:51 PM
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Country: | The next generation AC-XXX aircraft is being debated as we write this. The acronym cannot even be agree upon since the aircraft will not be a "gunship" per se. Rather, the next generation AC-XXX will have both explosive and non-explosive ordnance. The capabilities being discussed include those mirroring todays gunship plus beamed energy weapons capable of disabling and/or destroying electronics and hardware, as well as inflicting physical damage to personnel and equipment. Times are a-changin'.
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04-21-2007, 08:08 PM
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Country: | That C-17 picture was really cool! I first thought it was a computer model but the guy seems to make some great shots. Aviation Photos: Kevin Whitehead - Jetwash Images
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04-21-2007, 08:13 PM
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Country: | Yep. His open bays of the F-22 are fantastic. Evangilder has a similar pic, but not with the same zoom. Amazing that the F-22 can carry so much internal armament. 4 AIM-9/6 AIM-120 or 4 AIM-9/2 AIM120/4 SDBs.
I've never read that those bays are wet however. That would be interesting to know.
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