I hate this...
I said, I want to finish this discussion...
evanglider, you want facts? Or anyone else???? IT is possible, that not every picture text and so on is correct. Some things are in german, there I couldn't find an english source. Perhaps there is something from the second gulf war. I only looked for these things, which seemed to be confirmed. And I found enough other things, where soldiers were talking about war crimes (you tube). I didn't use them. But I'm not perfect.
I made the best job I could do.
1949 Conventions & Additional Protocols (1977 and 2005).
International Humanitarian Law - Treaties & Documents
convention III
International Humanitarian Law - Third 1949 Geneva Convention
Who are prisoner of war (Part)
Art 4. A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
(1) Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict, as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
(2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:[
(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
(c) that of carrying arms openly;
(d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
(3) Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.
(4) Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war correspondents, supply contractors, members of labour units or of services responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have received authorization, from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall provide them for that purpose with an identity card similar to the annexed model.
(5) Members of crews, including masters, pilots and apprentices, of the merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the conflict, who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other provisions of international law.
(6) Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
Art 5. The present Convention shall apply to the persons referred to in Article 4 from the time they fall into the power of the enemy and until their final release and repatriation.
Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal.
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The Taliban and the mercenary soldiers, paid by Osama Bin Laden which have been captured, are POW's.
Point 1, Point 2, Point 3.
I'm not sure, that these (in my opinion are Terrorists) you captured in Iraq, are POW's or not.
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Art 24. Transit or screening camps of a permanent kind shall be fitted out under conditions similar to those described in the present Section, and the prisoners therein shall have the same treatment as in other camps.
Art 17. (Part)
No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever.
Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind.
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These one, who where released from Guantanamo, or more worse, from the other camps, said something different.
Die Gefangenen von Guantánamo Bay — Amnesty International Schweiz
I saw some interviews with Khaled El-Masri.
Our german problem.
Till now, if it was possible, everything he has said has been proven.
And now we have a problem. In the prison camp in afganistan 2 german KSK soldiers have met him.
He has identified them. And with pictures could be proven, that the german soldiers didn't tell the truth.
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Art 21. The Detaining Power may subject prisoners of war to internment. It may impose on them the obligation of not leaving, beyond certain limits, the camp where they are interned, or if the said camp is fenced in, of not going outside its perimeter. Subject to the provisions of the present Convention relative to penal and disciplinary sanctions,
prisoners of war may not be held in close confinement except where necessary to safeguard their health and then only during the continuation of the circumstances which make such confinement necessary.
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The first pictures of Guantanamo. The small jail chambers.
http://www.amnesty.ca/campaigns/no_e...amo_action.jpg
Also again these one from other camps, who have been released from other camps. Abu Ghraib is a jail. It is not allowed to put prisoners into a jail.
In Abu Ghraib were also captured Iraqi soldiers.
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Art 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:
(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria. To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.
(2) The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.
An impartial humanitarian body, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross, may offer its services to the Parties to the conflict.
Art 14. Prisoners of war are entitled in all circumstances to respect for their persons and their honour.
Women shall be treated with all the regard due to their sex and shall in all cases benefit by treatment as favourable as that granted to men.
Prisoners of war shall retain the full civil capacity which they enjoyed at the time of their capture. The Detaining Power may not restrict the exercise, either within or without its own territory, of the rights such capacity confers except in so far as the captivity requires.
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You remember the pictures of Abu Ghraib? I do, the rest of the world do.
If not...
To help you.
Bild:AbuGhraibAbuse-standing-on-box.jpg - Wikipedia
No discussion please, if this was correct.
Against convention.
Did these one enjoy?
http://www2.amnesty.de/internet/resource.nsf/res/A985BD55D8682B66C1256EF6004DFA5E/$FILE/guantanamo_soldiers240.jpg
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Art 34. Prisoners of war shall enjoy complete latitude in the exercise of their religious duties, including attendance at the service of their faith, on condition that they comply with the disciplinary routine prescribed by the military authorities.
Adequate premises shall be provided where religious services may be held.
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If you carry long hears and a barb because of your religion...
In the first pictures of Guantanamo, I couldn't see someone carrying barb.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3...anamo23us4.jpg
Could you see anyone?
Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of Non-International Armed Conflicts (Protocol II), 8 June 1977.
Art 16. Protection of cultural objects and of places of worship
Without prejudice to the provisions of the Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict of 14 May 1954, it is prohibited to commit any acts of hostility directed against historic monuments, works of art or places of worship which constitute the cultural or spiritual heritage of peoples, and to use them in support of the military effort.
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This also means, that you have protect them of destruction or demolishen.
I remember the US soldiers standing in front of the museum of bagdad, while the civilians were stealing everything.
You also remember?
Museen-Plünderungen in Bagdad „Go in Ali Baba! It´s all yours.“ - Kultur - sueddeutsche.de
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First Part, more than 10.000 letters...also two parts
), every report I see where the news actually gets down in the dirt with the infantry or whoever, they'r not demoralized. They're gung-ho to get the work done, to help the Iragi people, to finish the job. They're pissed at the insurgents for screwing with the game plan, they're pissed sometimes at the media and how they're portrayed - but not demoralized or fearful. The only thing I see getting to their feelings is being away from home and the loss of buddies.
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