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OFF-Topic / Misc. Discuss Killer chooses firing squad in the Current forums; Originally Posted by Loiner I'm surprised anyone would choose the firing squad as their method of execution as I've heard ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loiner View Post
    I'm surprised anyone would choose the firing squad as their method of execution as I've heard it can potentially cause the most suffering by far. The electric chair is meant to be painless as unconsciousness is virtually instantaneous, but lethal injection sounds like the most favoured option as you just go to sleep on the first of the three drugs used.
    Personally that would be my method of choice just make sure he's a good marksman;just as lethal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysocks View Post
    capital punishment should be for those cases..where there is absolutely no doubt.. smoking gun in hand. and then it should be quick ..not years down the road. my 2 cents.


    Out of interest how would you define no doubt at all? Would that mean if there was the slightest whole in the prosecution's case they wouldn't be executed?
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    If there is no doubt (e.g. caught in the act, or DNA evidence), then execute.
    If there is only evidence beyond reasonable doubt, then life imprisonment, so there is always the chance of an apppeal later in life.
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    Evidence can be fabricated though, witnesses can lie, results can be tampered with. Not trying to be awkward as I'm undecided on the whole capital punishment debate, but I really don't see how you could differentiate in law. I bet the lawyers would have a field day with that
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    A conviction based on witness statements would only come under 'beyond reasonable doubt' in my opinion, so would not result in capital punishment; only solid evidence should permit a capital sentance.

    As for fabricated evidence, the police and justice system should be tight and disciplined enough to exclude that kind of malpractice and perhaps be overseen by an independant body. Anyone found guilty of fabricating evidence which wrongly lead to a capital sentance should certainly face a murder charge themselves.

    The system would need to be robust, fool proof and transparent with independant monitoring as a pre-requisite to apply capital punishment, otherwise it would not be safe enough to apply (which is perhaps why few countries use it).
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    Which is a reasonable idea, and would work great, except for one thing: humans. I'm all for capital punishment if the subject is caught red-handed, smoking gun in hand, or DNA evidence proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that the accused is guilty. However, I also think that Hollywood may have screwed up and gotten close to the truth (in certain cases) when they filmed "12 Angry Men". What may seem like an open-and-shut case can turn out to be anything but that, when you strip away innate human prejudices and biased (not intentionally) viewpoints.


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    And so it's done

    Vanilla ice-cream? Man, that's just silly, the E-numbers in that stuff will kill you...

    Gardner executed by firing squad - CNN.com

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    I if they used FMJ?? what caliber?


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    I heard on the radio that the firing squad consists of law enforcement and military. And once the good dead is accomplished they will recieve a medallion (coin) for their superior work. I can't find anything other than this. I would gladly receive as many of these pins as they could produce for participating in the execution of those who prey upon children.

    It is comforting to know that there are good men willing do discomforting deeds in support of us sheeple.

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    Is it true one man in the firing squad is given a blank or is that just an urban legend?
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    I don't know. I always thought that was urban legend. As a kid I was always told the rationale was so that the shooters never knew who actually fired the kill shot. But having grown up and gotten into shooting myself... believe me you know if you shoot blanks.

    Come to think of it that wisdom has other applications doesn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Creep View Post
    Is it true one man in the firing squad is given a blank or is that just an urban legend?
    It's true NC. It's a psychological "crutch" for the shooters. But as Matt stated, you can tell when you're firing blanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToughOmbre View Post
    It's true NC. It's a psychological "crutch" for the shooters. But as Matt stated, you can tell when you're firing blanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javlin View Post
    My wife told me that the other day
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