Little girl defends herself

[Matt308]

What a shame that would be with the worlds largest Muslim nation within striking distance of your border and Sharia law so popular amongst their "peaceful loving religion".

Cosmoline and dessicants.

[Soren]

Matt,

The good thing about the civilian public not having any guns (Besides hunting rifles & shotguns ofcourse) is that then the burglars usually don't have this either. It is very rare that people get shot or stabbed do death in Europe compared to the US.

By having such a strict gun law in Europe it is made much harder for the criminals to acquire arms.

Furthermore if you were shoot a burglar or even "assault" him here in Europe you risk going to jail for even longer than him. Not entirely sure how the law is in the US about this, but I think it's similar.

[ccheese]

Originally Posted by Soren

Furthermore if you were shoot a burglar or even "assault" him here in Europe you risk going to jail for even longer than him. Not entirely sure how the law is in the US about this, but I think it's similar.

In the states it all depends on several things. Each state law is a bit different.
In Virginia, in order to kill an intruder into your home, your life or the life of
another, has to be in danger. If your intruder is un-armed and you blast him
as he comes thru the door, you may be in trouble with the law.
If the law does not prosecute you, you can bet your sweet bippy the perp's
family will sue you for "wrongful death", and probably win in court.

So, if you kill the bastard, make sure he has a knife in his hand when the cops
get there !

Charles

[evangilder]

Damn straight, Charles. It all comes down to intent. If someone breaks into my home, then they are obviously up to no good. I have a wife and 2 young children to protect. Trust me, they WILL be protected.

[Soren]

Evan,

One must be careful not to be too trigger happy though. A burglar usually just wants your valuables and they often carry nothing else but a crow bar or some other entry tool. Usually they aren't killers and have no intention of hurting anyone, infact they mostly run in fear if anyone shows up. And so it is important not to just blast the bastard upon first sight without warning, and if he starts running then by all means let him - otherwise you might end up in more trouble than him.

Needless to say I'd smoke any burglar who brakes into my house with a firearm without a moments hesitation as-well Evan, he won't get the slightest chance to hurt anyone I can guarantee, it'll be over before he knows it. However there is a certain comfort in knowing the gun laws are as strict as they are here, as they mean that IF the burglar IS armed it is highly likely with a visible weapon and not a hidden away pistol - which helps decision making and is good in court.
!

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I disagree.

My property belongs to me, and a burgler has no right to steel my ****. If he wants it, he can pay the price!

[Maestro]

What can I say ? Way to go, girl !

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I disagree.

My property belongs to me, and a burgler has no right to steel my ****. If he wants it, he can pay the price!

Damn right, Adler.

[Hop]

Shooting in Butte , MontanaÂ
Shotgun pre-teen vs. Illegal alien Home Invaders :
Butte, Montana November 5, 2007

Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana, and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

It's a nice story, but it isn't true. See for example Snopes:
snopes.com: Home Invasion Thwarted by 11-Year-Old Girl

Furthermore if you were shoot a burglar or even "assault" him here in Europe you risk going to jail for even longer than him.

Not in the UK. In the UK you have a right to use any level of force, including lethal force, to protect yourself or others. You can't, for example, run over a thief who is running down the road carrying your laptop, but if a burglar is breaking in to your house, you are entitled to use force to defend yourself.

See for example this case:
BBC NEWS | England | London | No charges over neighbour killing

[Lucky13]

Anyone that threatens my family or friends, break into my house, will be leaving in a coffin made of wood...

[evangilder]

Originally Posted by Soren

Evan,

One must be careful not to be too trigger happy though. A burglar usually just wants your valuables and they often carry nothing else but a crow bar or some other entry tool. Usually they aren't killers and have no intention of hurting anyone, infact they mostly run in fear if anyone shows up. And so it is important not to just blast the bastard upon first sight without warning, and if he starts running then by all means let him - otherwise you might end up in more trouble than him.

If you had 2 young children in your home, you would understand. I don't give a rat's azz what he is here for. He entered my home by breaking in. My family counts on me to provide for an protect them. You enter my home illegally, be prepared to face the consequences.

My family are the most important things in my life and I would die to protect them. You break into my house, I am not going to wait for you to harm my wife or my children. Period.

Originally Posted by Soren

Needless to say I'd smoke any burglar who brakes into my house with a firearm without a moments hesitation as-well Evan, he won't get the slightest chance to hurt anyone I can guarantee, it'll be over before he knows it. However there is a certain comfort in knowing the gun laws are as strict as they are here, as they mean that IF the burglar IS armed it is highly likely with a visible weapon and not a hidden away pistol - which helps decision making and is good in court.
!

If you have to wait to see if the perp is armed before firing, YOU could be the one who is dead. Tough talk is one thing, but the reality of the situation is that he who hesitates is dead. If someone comes bursting through your door, you have sub-second timing to determine who's gonna get capped. If you wait to see if he is armed, you will be dead. If you fire as the dirtbag comes crashing through, you have won the element of surprise and the grand prize of being able to live.

[Thorlifter]

Originally Posted by Soren

Not entirely sure how the law is in the US about this, but I think it's similar.

I know in Texas we have a law called, something like "The night time law". It basically says if you go outside and see someone taking something out of your truck, you can shoot them on the spot. I have 1st hand knowledge of cops helping out robbery victims when the victim shot the burgler.

I go by two priciples........

1. It's against the laws of the U.S. to steal.
2. It's against God's laws (Thou shall not steal)

And as a victim who has had his home buglarized, I can tell you it's not an easy feeling to go to bed for a while. And try calming down your wife and kids. Screw them ****ing cowards. If you steal, you deserve whatever consequences that come your way.

[Lucky13]

Was once burgled into, while we were asleep IN the house...maaan, had I caught them they'd NEVER see the light of day ever again....

[Soren]

If you had 2 young children in your home, you would understand

I do understand Evan, infact I haven't been saying otherwise than you on this issue. I would die to protect my family as-well as I'd rather die myself than not to have them around, and really who wouldn't ?

I said one has to be careful not to be too trigger happy, the big reason being that the burglar most likely isn't armed and if he is you'll get the first shot anyhow - unless you're of the opinion he comes bursting through the door pointing a pistol around commando style ?? Remember you're cocked & ready to aim, the guy who just crawled through your window or just broke open you door isn't!

Tough talk is one thing, but the reality of the situation is that he who hesitates is dead. If someone comes bursting through your door, you have sub-second timing to determine who's gonna get capped. If you wait to see if he is armed, you will be dead.

Tough talk ??? Evan what you're saying just isn't true. Hesitation has nothing to do with it, it's a lightning decision - if you've ever been in combat (Or police work) you'd understand as even then you often have to make such decisions, and fast. - Is he armed ?? He is! *bang!*

Also remember a burglar will pretty much only break into a house if he thinks it's abandoned, and thus you've got the element of surprise from the very beginning.

Furthermore that no burglar will get a chance in my home isn't tough talk Evan, I know I'm a faster and better shot than anyone who breaks into my house. If anyone breaks into my house with a firearm he will have third eye before he knows it. So poor him who tries..

[Soren]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I disagree.

My property belongs to me, and a burgler has no right to steel my ****. If he wants it, he can pay the price!

And so will you if you shoot him dead for stealing a necklace.

[Soren]

I remember helping to hold down a thief who tried to steal my neighbor's bicycle many years ago. Had my neighbor decided to shoot him dead with his shotgun as he ran he would be in prison today. However seeing that the thief had no weapons on him he simply ran after him and brought him to the ground. I heard the struggle from my bedroom and wasted no time getting down there to help.

That was the right thing to do in that incident, which was also what the kind officers who came to pick the bastard up told us.

We held him for over 20min, head against the pavement.