Marine Throws Puppy???? - Page 2 - Aircraft of World War II

Negative Creep · 03-06-2008, 03:24 PM

Of course, but I remember reading animal charities receive far more in donations than those for people! Or take films; you can show people getting beaten, shot , beaten and blown up but if that were a dog or cat people would be shocked

Bucksnort101 · 03-06-2008, 03:36 PM

Yes, I know where you are coming from on that. People have a soft spot in thier hearts for animals, and many give them more protections than thier human couterparts. Peta and the Humane Society of America (not the same group as your local Humane Society) come to mind here.

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Or take films; you can show people getting beaten, shot , beaten and blown up but if that were a dog or cat people would be shocked

This is precisely why I no longer go to the movies or watch much Television any more. Too much junk and perversion for my liking.

comiso90 · 03-06-2008, 04:10 PM

The proliferation of video will destroy us or keep us honest. The potential for taking video out of context is too great.

How many bags of grain will we have to distribute how many Hospitals and schools built before the image of a puppy tossing marine is erased from the minds of the rest of the world?

This is a major PR victory for the bad guys.. this has a lot of legs.

.. I gotta say though.. the audio doesn't sound right... the yelping doest fade with distance...

Clave · 03-06-2008, 04:53 PM

You may say the animal charities are over the top, but even the puniest human has more capability for self-defence than a puppy. There is simply NO EXCUSE for being cruel to animals, it is cowardly and pathetic, and I hope this is just another fake...

Njaco · 03-06-2008, 07:57 PM

So do I hope its fake.

and the #1 mantra of newspapers is if has kids or animals in the story, it will sell.

Don't get me started on those animal protection groups and organizations unless you like paying for $300,000 salary for the CEO and a company car to roll around in. Support your local animal shelter. Much better use of money donations.

i-kil-you · 03-06-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lesofprimus

We've all done really stoopid and inhumane things in our lives to one degree or another, and yes, there are a few tapes of me doing some really bad things out there...

U did something stupid, deal with the consequences... Thats how boys become men, consequence...

All I can say about this Jarhead is, thank God it wasnt a Squid....

I've done some pretty stupid things in my life also so ur not the only 1

mkloby · 03-06-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Clave

You may say the animal charities are over the top, but even the puniest human has more capability for self-defence than a puppy. There is simply NO EXCUSE for being cruel to animals, it is cowardly and pathetic, and I hope this is just another fake...

Of course there's the blatant cases - such as if this video were legit. However, animal cruelty laws in most US states go way beyond anything that is reasonable. Again - they're animals, not human beings.

Konigstiger205 · 03-07-2008, 02:40 AM

There was a huge scandal last year when was shown a video with 3 teenage kids beating a cat until its dead.That was pretty shocking and a petition was signed to make an animal police but although many signed the petition nothing happened.As for the fact that humans give more sympathy and protection to animals, well thats a known fact but I saw a beheading (I hope I spelled it right) once and I hated the bastards who did it more than anyone in the world.Killing a helpless victim (animal or human) or beating it its just cruelty and those who did should be punished....

freebird · 03-07-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucksnort101

If they are Marines and it is not faked they should be flogged for being cruel and idiots.
If it is faked and they are Marines they should be flogged for being idiots.
If they are not Marines and it is real they should be flogged for being cruel and impersonating a Marine.
If they are not Marines and it is fakes they should be flogged for being idiots and impersonating a Marine.

Any way you look at it they should be flogged for one reason or another!!!

Pretty good logic there...

Soundbreaker Welch? · 03-07-2008, 05:07 AM

Someone was saying how this will turn into a conspiracy theory, that people will always wonder if that puppy was real or not, no matter what the military says.

Wayne Little · 03-07-2008, 05:56 AM

Low act, hope it is faked?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 03-07-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mkloby

However, animal cruelty laws in most US states go way beyond anything that is reasonable. Again - they're animals, not human beings.

On that I disagree with. Do animals not feel pain?

In my opinion the full book should be thrown at people who are cruel to animals (I am not talking about legit hunting). They are living beings as well.

I think Vick got off easy and the punishments for offenders should be much harsher than they are.

An animal has no way of really defending itself. It is wrong...

I am in no way a tree hugging Greenie or anything but animal cruelty is just as bad as doing it to humans.

I pray that this is a fake. As a former US service member I hold all US Service members to a high standard and this is one of them. If it is not a fake, I would punish them more harsher than I would a civilian and a civilian I would punish greatly!

ToughOmbre · 03-07-2008, 07:37 AM

I'm hopin' it's a fake as well. Probably is.

And I agree with Adler; there's no excuse for cruelty to animals.

TO

Njaco · 03-07-2008, 04:28 PM

I could tell you stories! But the main thing about animal cruelty that you must keep in mind is that there has been documented studies and someone who abuses animals will eventually abuse humans. There is a link. I have been involved in some cases first hand where the history was as young kids they tortured animals and graduated to other horrendous things.

In many states animal cruelty laws are no more than misdemeanors - same thing as not wearing your seat belt. I'm not saying they should get captial punishment but they should be harsh.

And some history. Our Child abuse laws are based on animal cruelty laws that were in existance at the time (late 1800's). Child advocates used animal cruelty laws to change the law regarding kids.

magnocain · 03-07-2008, 09:11 PM

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I have been involved in some cases first hand where the history was as young kids they tortured animals and graduated to other horrendous things.

Agreed.

03-06-2008, 03:24 PM	#16
Negative Creep Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 840	Of course, but I remember reading animal charities receive far more in donations than those for people! Or take films; you can show people getting beaten, shot , beaten and blown up but if that were a dog or cat people would be shocked __________________ "We attack tomorrow under cover of daylight" "Daylight sir?" "Yes it's the last thing they'll be expecting, a daylight charge over the minefield"

03-06-2008, 04:10 PM	#18
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,494	The proliferation of video will destroy us or keep us honest. The potential for taking video out of context is too great. How many bags of grain will we have to distribute how many Hospitals and schools built before the image of a puppy tossing marine is erased from the minds of the rest of the world? This is a major PR victory for the bad guys.. this has a lot of legs. .. I gotta say though.. the audio doesn't sound right... the yelping doest fade with distance... __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ .

03-06-2008, 04:53 PM	#19
Clave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deep in suburban Surrey Posts: 2,076	You may say the animal charities are over the top, but even the puniest human has more capability for self-defence than a puppy. There is simply NO EXCUSE for being cruel to animals, it is cowardly and pathetic, and I hope this is just another fake... __________________

03-06-2008, 07:57 PM	#20
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 11,736	So do I hope its fake. and the #1 mantra of newspapers is if has kids or animals in the story, it will sell. Don't get me started on those animal protection groups and organizations unless you like paying for $300,000 salary for the CEO and a company car to roll around in. Support your local animal shelter. Much better use of money donations. __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

03-07-2008, 02:40 AM	#23
Konigstiger205 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucharest Posts: 909	There was a huge scandal last year when was shown a video with 3 teenage kids beating a cat until its dead.That was pretty shocking and a petition was signed to make an animal police but although many signed the petition nothing happened.As for the fact that humans give more sympathy and protection to animals, well thats a known fact but I saw a beheading (I hope I spelled it right) once and I hated the bastards who did it more than anyone in the world.Killing a helpless victim (animal or human) or beating it its just cruelty and those who did should be punished.... __________________ These airplanes we have today are no more than a perfection of a child's toy made of paper."Henri Coanda"

03-07-2008, 05:07 AM	#25
Soundbreaker Welch? Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,896	Someone was saying how this will turn into a conspiracy theory, that people will always wonder if that puppy was real or not, no matter what the military says. __________________ "His motor's conked out!" "What's the differance, they're all Nazis!" "Luke, shut up!" "Fear the hook!" "Oh.....I wanna fly." "You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?" "What you doing? Oh Nooooo!"

03-07-2008, 05:56 AM	#26
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 14,596	Low act, hope it is faked?

03-07-2008, 07:37 AM	#28
ToughOmbre Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,490	I'm hopin' it's a fake as well. Probably is. And I agree with Adler; there's no excuse for cruelty to animals. TO __________________ *“Let's get Enterprise* and Hornet turned into the wind."**

03-07-2008, 04:28 PM	#29
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 11,736	I could tell you stories! But the main thing about animal cruelty that you must keep in mind is that there has been documented studies and someone who abuses animals will eventually abuse humans. There is a link. I have been involved in some cases first hand where the history was as young kids they tortured animals and graduated to other horrendous things. In many states animal cruelty laws are no more than misdemeanors - same thing as not wearing your seat belt. I'm not saying they should get captial punishment but they should be harsh. And some history. Our Child abuse laws are based on animal cruelty laws that were in existance at the time (late 1800's). Child advocates used animal cruelty laws to change the law regarding kids. __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

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