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Old 07-06-2007, 08:49 AM   #1
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moon landings

Truth or fiction?
Big fan of the moon landings...I buy it.

I've read lots of stuff and it seems real to me.

Similar to concorde...out of step tech which not around today.

Britain could build a mach 2 airliner...?...yeah right.
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Old 07-06-2007, 08:59 AM   #2
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Are you saying the moon landings were staged?
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:09 AM   #3
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Not me personally but that view does hold.

There seems to be very knowledgeable people on here whose opinion I would consider to be v.good.
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:42 AM   #4
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There are too many eye-witnesses, contractors, and physical evidence to say the moon landings were a hoax.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:01 AM   #5
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A french documentarist made a film about moon landings in 2002. It claims that footage from the moon was staged in the set of "Space Odyssey 2001". They interviewed Kubricks widow Christiane, Donald Rumsfeld, Henry Kissinger, Buzz Aldrin, etc, and they all say the same thing: Moon landings were a hoax!

Naturally they are all joking Opération lune (2002) (TV)
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:10 AM   #6
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Joddrell Bank in Manchester is a giant radio telescope. It picked up signals from tha Apollo missions. They came from the moon....apparently.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:13 AM   #7
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I also know these stories...

Even I have no problems to explain most of the hoax-facts.
And I did it ones in a special forum.
After some hours I was totaly frustrated...
I was the "DEVIL" for them. And I got some "nice" replys like "Arschloch" (****hole) or "Spinner".
These were the same persons, who believe, that anti-tank granates with uranium core are "mini A-bombs" and they believe on "Red Mercury".

And dont forget, one experiment they stored on the moon (each landing) is still running from begin of the first day!

Each time they stored one or more laser-reflectors on the moon.
Rondomly till now they use them to determine the distance earth-moon.

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I've been in similar arguments on the internet. It's like arguing with creationists or ID supporters - no matter how much evidence you pour in, they never correct their views. Conspiracy theories are a matter of faith.
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I've been in similar arguments on the internet. It's like arguing with creationists or ID supporters - no matter how much evidence you pour in, they never correct their views. Conspiracy theories are a matter of faith.
100% correct.

But it makes always fun (for some hours) to discuss such "facts".
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:40 AM   #10
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Come on - don't you think that if they were a hoax the US had at least one enemy (USSR) that would have presented strong credible evidence of the lie???
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Come on - don't you think that if they were a hoax the US had at least one enemy (USSR) that would have presented strong credible evidence of the lie???
Bingo!
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I just saw, that we have also such a "conspiracy" thread in this forum.

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/pol...tml#post260819 (Kennedy JFK Assasination)

So we are not better!

Ah...JFK-> "No conspiracy"!
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Come on - don't you think that if they were a hoax the US had at least one enemy (USSR) that would have presented strong credible evidence of the lie???
Exactly if you had not said it I would have as well.

The US was being so closely watched by the Soviet Union that if the US had faked it, the Soviets would have been dropping dimes instantly and told the whole world and throwing out all sorts of evidence.

Another reason why I absolutely believe it happened. I met Armstrong at a school function and it was really neat to hear everything from the great man himself.
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I just saw, that we have also such a "conspiracy" thread in this forum.

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/pol...tml#post260819 (Kennedy JFK Assasination)

So we are not better!

Ah...JFK-> "No conspiracy"!
You can't compare the two - apples and oranges. With regards to the Kennedy assassination there are literary thousands of witnesses who could collaborate a conspiracy. The folks who bring up hoaxed moon landings do not have the education or technical background to back-up their claims. In the case of the Kennedy Assassination 3/4 of the conspiracy deals with eye witness testimony, photography evidence and government cover-ups that are now being exposed.

FOR EXAMPLE - yesterday there was a news story based on recently declassified documents the CIA attempted as late as 1963 to assassinate Castro - this was in total violation of a Presidential order. That meant Kennedy was still covertly supporting assassinating government leaders or the CIA was operating covertly against presidential orders. If the latter being the case it shows how the CIA was "rouge" during that period.

Here's the link....

Closest CIA bid to kill Castro was poisoned drink - Yahoo! News

The worse thing about the Kennedy assassination is the eye witnesses who saw the slightest thing contrary with regards to the warren commission report were purposely ignored. If indeed there WASN'T a conspiracy, what harm would of come in at least investigating some of these leads?!?!?!?
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You can't compare the two - apples and oranges. With regards to the Kennedy assassination there are literary thousands of witnesses who could collaborate a conspiracy. The folks who bring up hoaxed moon landings do not have the education or technical background to back-up their claims. In the case of the Kennedy Assassination 3/4 of the conspiracy deals with eye witness testimony, photography evidence and government cover-ups that are now being exposed.
Of course, I can compare both threads!!! BOTH ARE CONSPIRACY THREADS!!!
Not more or less! Don't let us discuss in this thread, what is the truth of the JFK story. The difference in both threads is, that in this one, the majority believes, that they landed on the moon, in the other, they believe in "conspiracy".
But you have to know, if the majority believes in something, it must not be the truth. "Conspiracy" is much more interesting, than "No conspiracy". Also for the press and TV!!!

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Ah...JFK-> "No conspiracy"!
I put a smilie behind it! For me, this was just a little joke (in this thread).


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I've been in similar arguments on the internet. It's like arguing with creationists or ID supporters - no matter how much evidence you pour in, they never correct their views. Conspiracy theories are a matter of faith.

apples and oranges are both fruits!





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FOR EXAMPLE - yesterday there was a news story based on recently declassified documents the CIA attempted as late as 1963 to assassinate Castro - this was in total violation of a Presidential order. That meant Kennedy was still covertly supporting assassinating government leaders or the CIA was operating covertly against presidential orders. If the latter being the case it shows how the CIA was "rouge" during that period.
Nice, but I know this fact since 20? jears. OK, I don't know this document before of course. But I well know of the assassination trials on Castro.
Perhaps we were better informed in germany by our press. Or your press didn't want to inform you before? Because no one in USA likes Castro?
I know, what the CIA was doing and perhaps is still doing. IRAN, CHILE, Vietnam, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Argentina, Cuba, Egypt, Irak, Osama Bin laden, Afganistan, Laos, Namibia, Angola etc...
Not only during that period.

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