 | Most Accurate War Film| OFF-Topic / Misc. Discuss Most Accurate War Film in the Current forums; Hunt for Red October? Certainly not the movie. Book was great though. That was back when Clancy actually wrote his ... |
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04-03-2007, 11:17 AM
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Country: | Hunt for Red October? Certainly not the movie. Book was great though. That was back when Clancy actually wrote his own books.
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04-03-2007, 11:46 AM
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| Speaking of accuracy, don´t you guys think the siren of the Stukas attacking all those small ships and boats trying to cross the Volga laden with soldiers should have been way more noisier?
Having read so many things, especially about the eastern front, is that you can tell that when Stukas were aiming directly at your position, the screaming siren would not even let you hear the yelling of your fellow soldiers around you. YouTube - Enemy at the Gates - Crossing the Volga
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04-03-2007, 12:02 PM
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Country: | You don't really believe that do you Udet? A diving aircraft with a mechanical siren that is louder than your mate can shout right next to you. That would be lound indeed. And thus cannot possibly be true.
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04-03-2007, 12:07 PM
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| Pork Chop Hill with Gregory Peck was pretty good also...
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04-03-2007, 12:09 PM
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| Matt, i am not sure; that is why i am asking.
Did you see the movie part?
I have German footage of the eastern front, where a Stuka attack against soviet positions is under way; the German camera is located between some panzers and German troops laying on the ground waiting for the Stukas to conduct their attack.
You can see the explosions of the Stuka bombs in the distance, and it was my calculation the soviet positions under dive bombing attack were ~1.5km away from where the camera is; you can clearly detect the sirens, so it is not daring to affirm the soviet soldiers which were under attack were certainly experiencing something very very loud.
If you see Stuka attack films, there are many times when you can realize these planes pulled out of the dive real close to the ground, as it is shown in that part of Enemy at the Gates.
Just my thoughts.
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04-03-2007, 03:40 PM
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Country: | I'm certain that you could hear them. It is the magnitude that you wrote about that I take issue with. Perhaps, I'm just being my nerdy engineer self. Certainly the sirens were not louder than a yelling squad mate at those attack ranges. But I can tell you that as long as I could hear them, it certainly would be unnerving. Probably make you keep your head down and reluctant to return fire too.
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04-04-2007, 01:32 AM
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Country: | Tora Tora Tora surely deserves a mention for historical accuracy.
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04-04-2007, 08:35 AM
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Country: | I just threw "Red October" in there as a movie that while not 'historically' accurate at least was made very well and had a very good 'suspension of belief' factor to it. kinda like "Ice Station Zebra". |
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04-04-2007, 10:57 AM
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Country: | It was definitely a good movie. Book was better. Kinda like the movie, "We Were Young. And We Were Soldiers." Good movie. Awesome book. In fact, the best part of the book was the appendix detailing where all the characters currently resided.
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04-04-2007, 11:55 AM
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Country: | Speaking of books and movies, think "Red Storm Rising" was a great book but would be very hard to make into a movie. Talk about your cast of thousands. |
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04-04-2007, 11:57 AM
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Country: | While there are plenty of movies that are historically accurate or just good movies, I really can not say what movie is them most accurate war movie. I dont think Hollywood can ever accuaratly capture the horrors of war on film.
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04-04-2007, 12:06 PM
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Country: | True Chris but they can only go so far in doing it. I don't think they will ever get it spot on as nothing made can every equal the real thing. Now as to realistic war movies for me it would be Das Boot (the original) and Band of Brothers although there are others that are still historically accurate but don't capture the feelings/emotions as well as those two do.
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04-04-2007, 12:20 PM
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Country: | "cross of iron" was great for it's time.
eastern front.. T-34's.. gotta love it:
I'm suprised how few people have seen it... dont bother renting it... just buy it! Cross of Iron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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04-04-2007, 01:46 PM
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Country: | Hmm. Never heard of it. On US TV?
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04-04-2007, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Hmm. Never heard of it. On US TV? | Cross of Iron is a 1977 drama war film directed by Sam Peckinpah and starring James Coburn,
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