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OFF-Topic / Misc. Discuss New bullet proof armor in the Current forums; Leave it to the Israeli's to invent stuff like this. http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/091205_tech.htm And I dont care what anyone says, even if ...

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    New bullet proof armor

    Leave it to the Israeli's to invent stuff like this.

    http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/091205_tech.htm



    And I dont care what anyone says, even if the French army wears it, their soldiers will still runaway in fear!
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    Fascinating stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonskimmer
    Fascinating stuff.
    Yes, very. Amazing what they can do with modern technology.


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    Hmmm.....


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    The U.S has been developing something similar for a long time that uses layers to absorb the shock and protect the wearer. It's much lighter than the current body armour and much stronger. But I only saw it on TV - so I can't remember everything about it.

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    There are several new body armour in research right now by the US. Here is one called Liquid Armour:

    Army Scientists, Engineers develop Liquid Body Armor
    By Tonya Johnson
    Army News Service
    April 21, 2004


    ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND, Md. -- Liquid armor for Kevlar vests is one of the newest technologies being developed at the U.S. Army Research Laboratory to save Soldiers' lives.

    This type of body armor is light and flexible, which allows soldiers to be more mobile and won't hinder an individual from running or aiming his or her weapon.

    The key component of liquid armor is a shear thickening fluid. STF is composed of hard particles suspended in a liquid. The liquid, polyethylene glycol, is non-toxic, and can withstand a wide range of temperatures. Hard, nano-particles of silica are the other components of STF. This combination of flowable and hard components results in a material with unusual properties.

    "During normal handling, the STF is very deformable and flows like a liquid. However, once a bullet or frag hits the vest, it transitions to a rigid material, which prevents the projectile from penetrating the Soldier's body," said Dr. Eric Wetzel, a mechanical engineer from the Weapons and Materials Research Directorate who heads the project team.

    To make liquid armor, STF is soaked into all layers of the Kevlar vest. The Kevlar fabric holds the STF in place, and also helps to stop the bullet. The saturated fabric can be soaked, draped, and sewn just like any other fabric.

    Wetzel and his team have been working on this technology with Dr. Norman J. Wagner and his students from the University of Delaware for three years.

    "The goal of the technology is to create a new material that is low cost and lightweight which offers equivalent or superior ballistic properties as compared to current Kevlar fabric, but has more flexibility and less thickness," said Wetzel. "This technology has a lot of potential."

    Liquid armor is still undergoing laboratory tests, but Wetzel is enthusiastic about other applications that the technology might be applied to.

    "The sky's the limit," said Wetzel. "We would first like to put this material in a soldier's sleeves and pants, areas that aren't protected by ballistic vests but need to remain flexible. We could also use this material for bomb blankets, to cover suspicious packages or unexploded ordnance. Liquid armor could even be applied to jump boots, so that they would stiffen during impact to support Soldiers' ankles."

    In addition to saving Soldiers' lives, Wetzel said liquid armor in Kevlar vests could help those who work in law enforcement.

    "Prison guards and police officers could also benefit from this technology," said Wetzel. "Liquid armor is much more stab resistant than conventional body armor. This capability is especially important for prison guards, who are most often attacked with handmade sharp weapons."

    For their work on liquid armor, Wetzel and his team were awarded the 2002 Paul A. Siple Award, the Army's highest award for scientific achievement, at the Army Science Conference.
    http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,usa3_042104.00.html


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    Aeronatical engineers can apply the material to most sections of an aircraft to make it impregnable to fragments from proximity fused missles.
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    ...Aeronautical engineering is what I hope to be studying in the not so distant future. But at the moment ...it's partying ....partying ...and just that little bit more partying.
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    Dont party too much and wait to long to start your studying. Time will creep up on you, trust me I know.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    I know, I'm looking to go september next year.
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    To those in that club.

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    Well I wish you the best of luck.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    I'll probably fail the entrance test again - last time it was by 2%! Two measly percent ... I'll probably fail by 1% this time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
    There are several new body armour in research right now by the US. Here is one called Liquid Armour:

    Army Scientists, Engineers develop Liquid Body Armor
    By Tonya Johnson
    Army News Service
    April 21, 2004


    ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND, Md. -- Liquid armor for Kevlar vests is one of the newest technologies being developed at the U.S. Army Research Laboratory to save Soldiers' lives.

    This type of body armor is light and flexible, which allows soldiers to be more mobile and won't hinder an individual from running or aiming his or her weapon.

    The key component of liquid armor is a shear thickening fluid. STF is composed of hard particles suspended in a liquid. The liquid, polyethylene glycol, is non-toxic, and can withstand a wide range of temperatures. Hard, nano-particles of silica are the other components of STF. This combination of flowable and hard components results in a material with unusual properties.

    "During normal handling, the STF is very deformable and flows like a liquid. However, once a bullet or frag hits the vest, it transitions to a rigid material, which prevents the projectile from penetrating the Soldier's body," said Dr. Eric Wetzel, a mechanical engineer from the Weapons and Materials Research Directorate who heads the project team.

    To make liquid armor, STF is soaked into all layers of the Kevlar vest. The Kevlar fabric holds the STF in place, and also helps to stop the bullet. The saturated fabric can be soaked, draped, and sewn just like any other fabric.

    Wetzel and his team have been working on this technology with Dr. Norman J. Wagner and his students from the University of Delaware for three years.

    "The goal of the technology is to create a new material that is low cost and lightweight which offers equivalent or superior ballistic properties as compared to current Kevlar fabric, but has more flexibility and less thickness," said Wetzel. "This technology has a lot of potential."

    Liquid armor is still undergoing laboratory tests, but Wetzel is enthusiastic about other applications that the technology might be applied to.

    "The sky's the limit," said Wetzel. "We would first like to put this material in a soldier's sleeves and pants, areas that aren't protected by ballistic vests but need to remain flexible. We could also use this material for bomb blankets, to cover suspicious packages or unexploded ordnance. Liquid armor could even be applied to jump boots, so that they would stiffen during impact to support Soldiers' ankles."

    In addition to saving Soldiers' lives, Wetzel said liquid armor in Kevlar vests could help those who work in law enforcement.

    "Prison guards and police officers could also benefit from this technology," said Wetzel. "Liquid armor is much more stab resistant than conventional body armor. This capability is especially important for prison guards, who are most often attacked with handmade sharp weapons."

    For their work on liquid armor, Wetzel and his team were awarded the 2002 Paul A. Siple Award, the Army's highest award for scientific achievement, at the Army Science Conference.
    http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,usa3_042104.00.html
    Actually the Canadian Army is working on the same thing, this program is kinda hush hush, but its happening.

    But with this stuff we are hoping to insulate our Helo's and G-wagons with it, that is if we perfect it.

    Now from what I have heard the stuff we are working on is not supposed to be soaked into a kevlar vest, its virtually the same thing as liquid armour except its not liquid its a jelly-like material that will form a whole vest, Im sure it will have inner and outter kevlar lining for protection.
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    So they won't open up the purse strings for better hardware, and instead they'll blow all kinds of money developing some goop to better protect the crap we have. Yup. Gotta be Canadian.

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    Hey now, NS, that's unfair. There's nothing wrong with giving your old tank a new paint job just to make it look pretty and modern...
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    To those in that club.

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