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12-06-2006, 08:16 PM
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#16 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | the temps at night were probably 18-25 F. We were 25 F for the lows the last several nights, sometimes with freezing fog sometimes not.
lets just put it this way, the guy was plain lost, he made some rash decisions on his course down the big hump out there, no roads to follow let alone see by using a drainage that he thought was going to lead into the mighty Rogue and in most cases are dry creeks even this time of year leading nowhere.
from what I am hearing now and this is out of the wifes mouth they missed there turn to the west off the main freeway I-5 to go west on 42 to the coast which is a main thouroughfare. Why didn't they just turn around ??, instead they saw the Merlin-Galice southward cut off on the road branching off winding up to the summit and down thinking they would surely take that cutoff, and make it........ even on the stinkin map it says the road is closed in the winter .........
like I said what were they thinking ? .......... they weren't
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12-06-2006, 09:06 PM
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Country:  | somebody wanted to brag about his SUV off road adventure '...I'll bet its an upper end SUV
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12-06-2006, 11:26 PM
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Probably dehydration after 7 days. Unless they had a consistence heat source to melt water (and we know it takes a shyte load of snow) he would have been well dehydrated adding rapidly to his hypothermia.
Most people don't think to keep hydrated when in extreme cold, it kills them fast.
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12-07-2006, 06:35 AM
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#19 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Word I have is that they were infact melting snow for water... The "trail" of articles left by Kim is still being hyped up by the media... BS..
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12-07-2006, 11:31 AM
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Country: | Hypothermia. That guy must have weighed a buck and a quarter max.
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12-07-2006, 04:26 PM
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#21 | | the old Sage
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Country: | well so much for the hype that went around here and the hero worship going on .......... geezo !
AN AUTOPSY SHOWS THAT JAMES KIM, THE SAN FRANCISCO MAN WHO DIED IN THE MOUNTAINS NEAR MERLIN, SUCCUMBED TO EXPOSURE AND HYPOTHERMIA.
THE AUTOPSY WAS CONDUCTED THURSDAY MORNING. OREGON STATE POLICE LIEUTENANT GREGG HASTINGS SAYS 35-YEAR-OLD JAMES KIM WAS FOUND, FULLY CLOTHED, ON HIS BACK IN THE BIG WINDY CREEK NEAR THE ROGUE RIVER. ( and he was nowhere even close to the river )
A SEARCH HELICOPTER HIRED BY THE KIM FAMILY SPOTTED KIM'S BODY AT MIDDAY YESTERDAY. IT WAS ABOUT A MILE FROM WHERE HE SET OUT TWO DAYS AFTER HIS WIFE AND TWO DAUGHTERS WERE RESCUED FROM THE VEHICLE, STUCK ON A REMOTE ROAD.
INVESTIGATORS BELIEVE HE TRAVELED ABOUT TEN MILES ON-FOOT.
KIM'S WIFE, KATI, AND THEIR DAUGHTERS FOUR-YEAR-OLD PENELOPE AND SEVEN MONTH-OLD SABINE WERE RESCUED MONDAY.
let's face it guys the guy screwed up, did not have the proper clothing to head out in the cold elements, was under hypothermia's delusions like we ALL said and walked in circles due to the proximity of his position to his car, 10 miles going nowhere.
again head down the frickin road you came up on. I almost shake my head in disbelief but I have seen this so many times in the mountains.
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12-08-2006, 09:49 AM
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12-08-2006, 10:24 AM
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#23 | | the old Sage
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Country: | that is SO right, and poor wife ............ this whole thing was SO wrong and could of been prevented
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12-08-2006, 11:12 AM
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Country: | Erich, they said the wife and kids were in the car for 9 days. When did the dad leave the vehicle? On the ninth day? Haven't read anything.
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12-08-2006, 11:32 AM
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#25 | | the old Sage
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Country: | it is not clear and they are not revealing everything .......... yet.
I thought the guy went out for 2-3 days and just walked in circles till he dropped over dead with no food/water intake
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12-08-2006, 11:35 AM
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Country: | Wow. Can't imagine that panic that must have set in when he realized he was never going to see his kids again.
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12-08-2006, 11:41 AM
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#27 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I really think he wasn't at that point ............. he probably thought I have to do this to save my familie thinking he was heading down to the Rogue River and that someone would find him. He got hypothermic probably during the night, went off crazily like they all do not equipped clothing wise and set out for who knows, his mind drawing a blank, feeling nothing and doing nothing till he just wasted away bodily and mindly. this all is short term meaning it does not take hours and hours to effect you, getting cold at first, your mind shrugs that off, the body plays tricks by sending rhythmic impulses to the brain and nerves telling you to strip down as you are too warm, then the mind goes, indecision time, blank stares, open mouth slight gasping for air as the body starts to shut down, walking short distances thinking you are walking miles, energy levels drop off dramatically.
You just cannot walk around in a foot or more of snow even on a clear day with wind chill, wet jeans, tennis shoes and wet slightly frozen socks without this affecting you. James was doomed the moment he left his wife, kids and their car
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12-08-2006, 11:45 AM
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Country: | No. He realized it. At some point, he realized he was in over his head. Then comes the panic, the fast breathing, getting colder, the desperation...
Too convenient to think he just succumbed to the cold and never knew what hit him. Life's not that kind.
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12-08-2006, 11:50 AM
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#29 | | the old Sage
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Country: | well Matt it happens on a repeated basis, I know this as fact pulling people out of the overdepth snow, some have a clue and know they are doomed, some not. you cannot tell by an autopsy as it will not reveal the indicators. The guy walked some 10 miles and was lost and I personally feel he flet he made the right choice and was going to be saved, the rough thing is the last 2 days of his ordeal was in thick fog, thus the dis-orientation until his mind drew a blank and he turned zombie
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12-08-2006, 12:00 PM
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Country: | Hellish. That's very Dante'-esque.
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