Small Aircraft Crashes Into New York City High-Rise Building - Aircraft of World War II

v2 · 10-11-2006, 04:36 PM

NEW YORK — A small aircraft crashed into a high-rise building on Manhattan's Upper East Side Wednesday,

Local news reports quoted New York Fire Department officials as saying two people were confirmed dead. Officials said there is no indication the incident was a result of terrorism.

The crash set off a raging fire that sent a pillar of gray smoke over the city, police said. Witnesses reported seeing a gigantic fireball come out of the building, police said.

Flames could be seen shooting from windows on two upper floors of the 50-story building, near the East River. Burning debris fell from the tower, and a column of gray smoke rose over the city.

"There's huge pieces of debris falling," said one witness who refused to give her full name. "There's so much falling now, I've got to get away."

Fire Department spokeswoman Emily Rahimi said the aircraft struck the 20th floor of the building, located at 524 East 72nd Street.

The Federal Aviation Administration said it was a small aircraft that was involved, but there was very little other information collected so far. A helicopter would be expected in that area of the city; no other aircraft should be around that part of Manhattan, the FAA said.

(FOX News)

FLYBOYJ · 10-11-2006, 04:39 PM

I've been watching a live feed on this, no one could make out what it is..

evangilder · 10-11-2006, 05:05 PM

The news stations are in a feeding frenzy on this one. Some say it was a helicopter, others say fixed wing. I have received word that NORAD has activiated some CAP flights over major cities. This is probably a precautionary measure at this time.

evangilder · 10-11-2006, 06:03 PM

I just got wind of this info. It was a single engine, fixed wing aircraft that departed from Teterboro Airport and was flying north along the East River corridor. The aircraft suddenly banked sharply 90 degrees and dropped quickly in altitude. It levelled off before impacting the building. Word is that the JTTF is treating this as a deliberate act, and not an accident. The investigation continues.

I am hoping that the aircraft and pilot info becomes available soon. Something smells kind of fishy...

evangilder · 10-11-2006, 06:06 PM

Damn phone is ringing off the hook....Looks like it may be a Cirrus SR20 owned by NY Yankees pitcher Corey Lidle.

Unconfirmed reports that his passport was found near the building.

FLYBOYJ · 10-11-2006, 06:36 PM

We just looked up his info - private pilot, no instrument rating. The weather in the area? Between 1 1/2 to 2 miles visibility, between 1000 - 1500 foot ceiling, haze and drizzle, definitely not VFR. Again, Mr. Lide does (did) not have an instrument rating.

lesofprimus · 10-11-2006, 07:07 PM

Guess he was upset that the Yankees got eliminated from the Playoffs....

FLYBOYJ · 10-11-2006, 08:21 PM

Yep - you should see some of the stuff that was posted about him on Yahoo...

Matt308 · 10-11-2006, 10:33 PM

I guess the SR20 parachutes don't work when your run 'em into buildings.

FLYBOYJ · 10-11-2006, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt308

I guess the SR20 parachutes don't work when your run 'em into buildings.

Yep!!!

I hate to say it but he was an idiot....

mkloby · 10-12-2006, 01:34 AM

Didn't you guys get the memo - if you're famous you don't need an instrument rating. Seriously - people vastly underestimate the importance of being able to fly in IMC. Any billy-bob can tote his cessna in vmc.

pbfoot · 10-12-2006, 08:04 AM

I'll go further and state most light general aircraft pilots scare the hell out of me . In Niagara we have a published race track pattern for viewing the Falls with altitudes determined by type of aircraft . I would not be surprised to find a Lycoming engine in my yard one day from the result of a mid air the general aviation aircraft are at all altitudes and flying the race track in any direction. The fact we've only had one mid air between two helos really shocks me . While contolling I've witnessed people flying with road maps for navigation , fuel tanks from outboard motors in the cockpit to extend range . Myself when I flew I ran into some weather decided on a 180 and and ended up doing a 360

it was a real learning experiance but how many of those types of thrills can you have before you find yourself in the middle of a smoking hole in the ground

FLYBOYJ · 10-12-2006, 08:27 AM

Yep - and 3 miles always don't mean you could see the granite cloud in front of you...

Vassili Zaitzev · 10-12-2006, 08:29 AM

Heard from my golfing instructor, hard to believe the rumor he flew into the tower deliberately but hey, the truth will take awhile to be unearthed.

FLYBOYJ · 10-12-2006, 08:38 AM

It seems he was turing around, he was being tracked on radar and was in a VFR corridor. As posted, the weather was horrible, this guy shouldn't even been thinking of flying. I think he turned around becuase he was worried about pentrating LaGuardia's airspace or he was encountering reduced visibility, in any case 1000' above the east river in under 2 mile visibility is not a place to do a 180 degree turn...

10-11-2006, 04:36 PM	#1
v2 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cracow Posts: 4,207	Small Aircraft Crashes Into New York City High-Rise Building NEW YORK — A small aircraft crashed into a high-rise building on Manhattan's Upper East Side Wednesday, Local news reports quoted New York Fire Department officials as saying two people were confirmed dead. Officials said there is no indication the incident was a result of terrorism. The crash set off a raging fire that sent a pillar of gray smoke over the city, police said. Witnesses reported seeing a gigantic fireball come out of the building, police said. Flames could be seen shooting from windows on two upper floors of the 50-story building, near the East River. Burning debris fell from the tower, and a column of gray smoke rose over the city. "There's huge pieces of debris falling," said one witness who refused to give her full name. "There's so much falling now, I've got to get away." Fire Department spokeswoman Emily Rahimi said the aircraft struck the 20th floor of the building, located at 524 East 72nd Street. The Federal Aviation Administration said it was a small aircraft that was involved, but there was very little other information collected so far. A helicopter would be expected in that area of the city; no other aircraft should be around that part of Manhattan, the FAA said. (FOX News) __________________ "A good fighter pilot, like a good boxer, should have a knockout punch..... You will find one attack you prefer to all others. Work on it till you can do it to perfection... then use it whenever possible." - Captain Reade Tilley, USAAF 7 Victories, WW-II -

10-11-2006, 04:39 PM	#2
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,051	I've been watching a live feed on this, no one could make out what it is.. __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

10-11-2006, 05:05 PM	#3
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	The news stations are in a feeding frenzy on this one. Some say it was a helicopter, others say fixed wing. I have received word that NORAD has activiated some CAP flights over major cities. This is probably a precautionary measure at this time. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

10-11-2006, 06:03 PM	#4
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	I just got wind of this info. It was a single engine, fixed wing aircraft that departed from Teterboro Airport and was flying north along the East River corridor. The aircraft suddenly banked sharply 90 degrees and dropped quickly in altitude. It levelled off before impacting the building. Word is that the JTTF is treating this as a deliberate act, and not an accident. The investigation continues. I am hoping that the aircraft and pilot info becomes available soon. Something smells kind of fishy... __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

10-11-2006, 06:06 PM	#5
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Damn phone is ringing off the hook....Looks like it may be a Cirrus SR20 owned by NY Yankees pitcher Corey Lidle. Unconfirmed reports that his passport was found near the building. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

10-11-2006, 06:36 PM	#6
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,051	We just looked up his info - private pilot, no instrument rating. The weather in the area? Between 1 1/2 to 2 miles visibility, between 1000 - 1500 foot ceiling, haze and drizzle, definitely not VFR. Again, Mr. Lide does (did) not have an instrument rating. __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

10-11-2006, 07:07 PM	#7
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,506	Guess he was upset that the Yankees got eliminated from the Playoffs.... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

10-11-2006, 08:21 PM	#8
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,051	Yep - you should see some of the stuff that was posted about him on Yahoo... __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

10-11-2006, 10:33 PM	#9
Matt308 aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 13,386	I guess the SR20 parachutes don't work when your run 'em into buildings. __________________ "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the [U.S.] Marines don't have that problem." -- Ronald Reagan Master of Duplicate Posts

10-12-2006, 01:34 AM	#11
mkloby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 3,562	Didn't you guys get the memo - if you're famous you don't need an instrument rating. Seriously - people vastly underestimate the importance of being able to fly in IMC. Any billy-bob can tote his cessna in vmc. __________________ If the Army and the Navy ever look on heaven's scenes, they will find the streets are guarded by United States Marines

10-12-2006, 08:04 AM	#12
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,588	I'll go further and state most light general aircraft pilots scare the hell out of me . In Niagara we have a published race track pattern for viewing the Falls with altitudes determined by type of aircraft . I would not be surprised to find a Lycoming engine in my yard one day from the result of a mid air the general aviation aircraft are at all altitudes and flying the race track in any direction. The fact we've only had one mid air between two helos really shocks me . While contolling I've witnessed people flying with road maps for navigation , fuel tanks from outboard motors in the cockpit to extend range . Myself when I flew I ran into some weather decided on a 180 and and ended up doing a 360 it was a real learning experiance but how many of those types of thrills can you have before you find yourself in the middle of a smoking hole in the ground

10-12-2006, 08:27 AM	#13
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,051	Yep - and 3 miles always don't mean you could see the granite cloud in front of you... __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

10-12-2006, 08:29 AM	#14
Vassili Zaitzev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stafford Springs, Connecticut Posts: 2,221	Heard from my golfing instructor, hard to believe the rumor he flew into the tower deliberately but hey, the truth will take awhile to be unearthed.

10-12-2006, 08:38 AM	#15
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,051	It seems he was turing around, he was being tracked on radar and was in a VFR corridor. As posted, the weather was horrible, this guy shouldn't even been thinking of flying. I think he turned around becuase he was worried about pentrating LaGuardia's airspace or he was encountering reduced visibility, in any case 1000' above the east river in under 2 mile visibility is not a place to do a 180 degree turn... __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

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