SOREN OR BILL? Lets hear it! - Page 3 - Aircraft of World War II

Haztoys · 05-21-2008, 11:11 AM

Soren

One thing you seem to all ways take the Germans side on most things ...You really have a good knowledge of ww11 and of what the Germans did...Lots more then I ...But your statements are so pro German a lot of what you say has lost weight...

And yes there's Americans and Brits and other do too ...I understand ...I always read what you post do to all your German knowledge...But your killing it the way you come across ...Sorry to get in this pissing contest ...I'm on the forum alot but just a student around here...You are one of the Gods of knowledge around here..And you muddy it up... I am a student on this forum ...But a God on some car and racing forums.. So why would I or you want to muddy up all are hard work...??...The books of the 60's and 70's have done that anuff about ww11...

Sorry to come across as a dick...I really do have the deepest respect for you and your German knowledge...

parsifal · 05-21-2008, 11:14 AM

Are they the positive points Bill?

Erich · 05-21-2008, 11:29 AM

personal observation gents..................this looks like it is going to go down a dark road with what type of objective - a slugging fest ? what would be the purpose except to give us all a good laugh ? hmmmmmmmmmm ..........

I think for all of us instead of having our reactions sitting on top of our shoulders all of us need to think for a time before we respond including myself, although I am close to perfection

Njaco · 05-21-2008, 11:32 AM

indeed - and that post proves it!

Lucky13 · 05-21-2008, 11:40 AM

Maybe these two gentlemen would "get along" much better if we changed this forum into something for crochet, knitting, tatting, embroidery, netting, point lace...etc. Njaco and Matt308 constantly tries to get me into this....thanks, but no thanks!

Anyhoo, I personally feel that it would be a great loss for the forum as a whole if any of the "combatants" would be banned as they both have a tremendous knowledge about WWII aviation etc. Who knows, maybe when these two and others, battle things out, it spurrs others into looking deeper into subject at hand to form their own opinion about the topic, because many times I've stared at numbers, tables etc, that have meant absolutely nothing me, in some threads....only to find myself looking somewhere else to figure out what the h*ck they're talking about....

Even though it sometimes can be rough in the discussions around here, I feel that's only because that we're all passionate in what we're doing and each and everyone deserve all the respect for that...

ccheese · 05-21-2008, 11:43 AM

I didn't see this thread until just now. I am surprised that any of the Mod's
allowed it to continue. IMHO it's in poor taste. I don't like it when two
members get into a whistling contest over something trivial, and like it even
less when one member picks on two others.

I think one of you Mod's should close this thread.

Charles

Hunter368 · 05-21-2008, 12:18 PM

No one meant this thread as one that is picking on anyone CC. As you have seen Bill and Soren have a unending problem between them that is disruptive to this forum.

I was attempting to use some light hearted humor to make them see that. I believe it is working to a degree.

See Bill's post and Soren's post. Bill makes some very clear statements as to why he dogs Soren the way he does. Soren I think is starting to see that now, plus has posted what he thought was a double standard by the Mods. Which has also been cleared up by the Mods.

I think we are making progress here. There as been no personal attacks by anyone here vs anyone. I cannot say the same when you read these to guys chats back and forth on many threads. They go at each other like cats and dogs.

Both are great guys, both are smart guys.......but they just need to work out their problems with each other for the betterment of this forum. Or at least work out some way that is less disruptive to the form to settle their disputes (like a thread just for them to bash each other in).

This thread was meant as a funny way to get them to see their problems and see how it disrupts this forum they both love.

evangilder · 05-21-2008, 12:19 PM

I have been thinking of doing just that, Charles. Before this gets too ugly, I will do just that.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-21-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

Adler,

Don't you remember telling me to get off my high horse when debating with glen on the WW2 in General forum some while ago ? That is what I was refering to.

I thought you were referring to this particular time, and this time I did not bust your chops this time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

I'm not trying to pick a fight and I'm certainly not making sh*t up Adler, I just can't understand why you're giving me public warnings for less than what Bill has pulled off recently.

Soren I have given him many public warnings. If you choose not to read them, that is your own fricken fault!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

And as for Bill recieving warnings via PM, ofcourse I can't know anything about that but I know atleast he got no public ones.

Because it is none of your business if someone else recieves a warning through a PM, just as it is no one else's busines if you get one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

Again not trying to pick a fight, so don't take it personally.

Dont take it personally? You called me out...

I answered!

You know where the pm button is if you want to continue this!

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05-21-2008, 11:11 AM	#31
Haztoys Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Prescott Arizona USA Posts: 507	Soren One thing you seem to all ways take the Germans side on most things ...You really have a good knowledge of ww11 and of what the Germans did...Lots more then I ...But your statements are so pro German a lot of what you say has lost weight... And yes there's Americans and Brits and other do too ...I understand ...I always read what you post do to all your German knowledge...But your killing it the way you come across ...Sorry to get in this pissing contest ...I'm on the forum alot but just a student around here...You are one of the Gods of knowledge around here..And you muddy it up... I am a student on this forum ...But a God on some car and racing forums.. So why would I or you want to muddy up all are hard work...??...The books of the 60's and 70's have done that anuff about ww11... Sorry to come across as a dick...I really do have the deepest respect for you and your German knowledge... Last edited by Haztoys; 05-21-2008 at 11:41 AM.

05-21-2008, 11:14 AM	#32
parsifal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,994	Are they the positive points Bill? __________________ Do not judge on abilities, but on choices

05-21-2008, 11:29 AM	#33
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	personal observation gents..................this looks like it is going to go down a dark road with what type of objective - a slugging fest ? what would be the purpose except to give us all a good laugh ? hmmmmmmmmmm .......... I think for all of us instead of having our reactions sitting on top of our shoulders all of us need to think for a time before we respond including myself, although I am close to perfection __________________ Rip it up !

05-21-2008, 11:32 AM	#34
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,237	indeed - and that post proves it! __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

05-21-2008, 11:40 AM	#35
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	Maybe these two gentlemen would "get along" much better if we changed this forum into something for crochet, knitting, tatting, embroidery, netting, point lace...etc. Njaco and Matt308 constantly tries to get me into this....thanks, but no thanks! Anyhoo, I personally feel that it would be a great loss for the forum as a whole if any of the "combatants" would be banned as they both have a tremendous knowledge about WWII aviation etc. Who knows, maybe when these two and others, battle things out, it spurrs others into looking deeper into subject at hand to form their own opinion about the topic, because many times I've stared at numbers, tables etc, that have meant absolutely nothing me, in some threads....only to find myself looking somewhere else to figure out what the h*ck they're talking about.... Even though it sometimes can be rough in the discussions around here, I feel that's only because that we're all passionate in what we're doing and each and everyone deserve all the respect for that... __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

05-21-2008, 11:43 AM	#36
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,309	I didn't see this thread until just now. I am surprised that any of the Mod's allowed it to continue. IMHO it's in poor taste. I don't like it when two members get into a whistling contest over something trivial, and like it even less when one member picks on two others. I think one of you Mod's should close this thread. Charles __________________ I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either....

05-21-2008, 12:18 PM	#37
Hunter368 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,240	No one meant this thread as one that is picking on anyone CC. As you have seen Bill and Soren have a unending problem between them that is disruptive to this forum. I was attempting to use some light hearted humor to make them see that. I believe it is working to a degree. See Bill's post and Soren's post. Bill makes some very clear statements as to why he dogs Soren the way he does. Soren I think is starting to see that now, plus has posted what he thought was a double standard by the Mods. Which has also been cleared up by the Mods. I think we are making progress here. There as been no personal attacks by anyone here vs anyone. I cannot say the same when you read these to guys chats back and forth on many threads. They go at each other like cats and dogs. Both are great guys, both are smart guys.......but they just need to work out their problems with each other for the betterment of this forum. Or at least work out some way that is less disruptive to the form to settle their disputes (like a thread just for them to bash each other in). This thread was meant as a funny way to get them to see their problems and see how it disrupts this forum they both love. __________________ "Ivan the Terrible or Russian Achilles" Ivan Kozhedub - Hero of the USSR (x3), Order of Lenin (x2), Order of Red Banner (x7), Order of Alexander Nevsky, Order of the Great Patriotic War (x2), Order of the Red Star (x2), 62 kills during 1943-1945

05-21-2008, 12:19 PM	#38
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	I have been thinking of doing just that, Charles. Before this gets too ugly, I will do just that. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

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