Student urinates on war memorial - Aircraft of World War II

Thorlifter · 11-05-2009, 11:44 AM

LONDON (Reuters) – A university student who was photographed urinating over a war memorial was warned on Wednesday that he could be jailed for the "dis-gusting act."

Philip Laing, 19, was charged by police after the picture, which showed him urinating on a poppy wreath following a drinking session in the center of Sheffield, appeared on a national newspaper's website.

"The image of your urinating over the poppy wreath on the war memorial in this city will make most turn away in dis-gust, shock and sadness," said District Judge Anthony Browne.

"It has undoubtedly distressed and upset many. The war memorial is a sacred and a special place."

Laing, who appeared in the dock wearing a poppy, pleaded guilty to outraging public decency when he appeared at Sheffield Magistrates' Court.

Browne adjourned sentencing for reports, saying all options including custody, were open, the Press Association reported.

The court heard that Laing, a sports technology student at Sheffield Hallam University, had drunk a bottle of whisky before attending an organized student drinking session organized by a private company, Carnage UK.

"Carnage is the name of the organization who promote this type of activity and some might say that somebody should be standing alongside you this morning," the judge said.

The court was told Laing had no recollection of the events of the night of October 11 until he was contacted by the university press office and shown the photograph which was later published on the Daily Mail website.

Prosecutor Ian Conway said Laing had immediately admitted the offence when arrested and told police he was "very, very drunk, the drunkest I've ever been since I've been at university."

"The dis-gusting and reprehensible act the defendant carried out was in no way premeditated, targeted or politically motivated," Conway said.

"His actions were sadly the result of having consumed large amounts of alcohol."

Laing's lawyer Tim Hughes said his client had become caught up in a culture of drinking far too much and added that Laing's grandparents had fought in the war.

"It's difficult to articulate just how embarrassed and ashamed this young man is," he said.

Laing was released on bail until the next hearing on November 26.

timshatz · 11-05-2009, 11:50 AM

Stupid drunk thing caught on camera. If you haven't done it, you will. And boy, do those pictures come back to haunt you.

While I don't condone what he did, he shows a lot of remorse and didn't mean it as some kind of "flag burning" event. He was really, really drunk. Stupid drunk thing to do.

Drank a whole bottle of whiskey, damn....that's a lot whiskey.

Let him off with a public apology and public service cleaning up a Vetran's cemetery or two.

FLYBOYJ · 11-05-2009, 12:25 PM

KICK HIS ASS!

ToughOmbre · 11-05-2009, 01:04 PM

Two ways to look at this.....

1) If he was truly so drunk that he had NO idea of what he was doing, then fines, apology, community service (as timshatz said) would be in order.

2) If he did know what he was doing, and purposely urinated on a war memorial, then I'm with Joe.

TO

Lucky13 · 11-05-2009, 03:18 PM

String him up and whip him good!

vikingBerserker · 11-05-2009, 04:10 PM

Let the Vets return the favor.

Ferdinand Foch · 11-05-2009, 04:26 PM

Wow, if its just an accident, give him a fine, or some community work, and let him be on his way (though a vet may just try to shoot his a@@). IT WAS STILL A LOUSY THING TO DO. I don't even want to think of what I would do for punishment if that was my son.

freebird · 11-05-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToughOmbre

Two ways to look at this.....

1) If he was truly so drunk that he had NO idea of what he was doing, then fines, apology, community service (as timshatz said) would be in order.

2) If he did know what he was doing, and purposely urinated on a war memorial, then I'm with Joe.

TO

I agree

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 11-05-2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToughOmbre

Two ways to look at this.....

1) If he was truly so drunk that he had NO idea of what he was doing, then fines, apology, community service (as timshatz said) would be in order.

2) If he did know what he was doing, and purposely urinated on a war memorial, then I'm with Joe.

TO

Agreed. Still I wonder about today's youth.

Even when I am drunk, I would never do something like this a memorial. I guess that is because my parents taught me respect.

Erich · 11-05-2009, 05:29 PM

may he be stung by a thousand scorpions ..................right in the nutz

idiot !

Bug_racer · 11-05-2009, 05:32 PM

Send him to Iraq for 3 months . Im sure he will learn respect there

lesofprimus · 11-05-2009, 06:34 PM

Fu*kin dumbass.....

freebird · 11-05-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I guess that is because my parents taught me respect.

Or how to hold your liquor....

proton45 · 11-05-2009, 08:11 PM

Todays drunken act of urination can be a lot more dangerous then in the past...if "ones" not careful you can be arrested for being a sex offender. All things being considered, this kid got off light. Clearly this was NO political statement...just drunken stupidity.

Butters · 11-05-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

KICK HIS ASS!

If he had any integrity, he'd ASK to have his ass kicked.

I'm not a religious person, but penance still has its place...

JL

11-05-2009, 11:44 AM	#1
Thorlifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 4,346	Student urinates on war memorial LONDON (Reuters) – A university student who was photographed urinating over a war memorial was warned on Wednesday that he could be jailed for the "dis-gusting act." Philip Laing, 19, was charged by police after the picture, which showed him urinating on a poppy wreath following a drinking session in the center of Sheffield, appeared on a national newspaper's website. "The image of your urinating over the poppy wreath on the war memorial in this city will make most turn away in dis-gust, shock and sadness," said District Judge Anthony Browne. "It has undoubtedly distressed and upset many. The war memorial is a sacred and a special place." Laing, who appeared in the dock wearing a poppy, pleaded guilty to outraging public decency when he appeared at Sheffield Magistrates' Court. Browne adjourned sentencing for reports, saying all options including custody, were open, the Press Association reported. The court heard that Laing, a sports technology student at Sheffield Hallam University, had drunk a bottle of whisky before attending an organized student drinking session organized by a private company, Carnage UK. "Carnage is the name of the organization who promote this type of activity and some might say that somebody should be standing alongside you this morning," the judge said. The court was told Laing had no recollection of the events of the night of October 11 until he was contacted by the university press office and shown the photograph which was later published on the Daily Mail website. Prosecutor Ian Conway said Laing had immediately admitted the offence when arrested and told police he was "very, very drunk, the drunkest I've ever been since I've been at university." "The dis-gusting and reprehensible act the defendant carried out was in no way premeditated, targeted or politically motivated," Conway said. "His actions were sadly the result of having consumed large amounts of alcohol." Laing's lawyer Tim Hughes said his client had become caught up in a culture of drinking far too much and added that Laing's grandparents had fought in the war. "It's difficult to articulate just how embarrassed and ashamed this young man is," he said. Laing was released on bail until the next hearing on November 26. __________________

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11-05-2009, 01:04 PM	#4
ToughOmbre Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,233	Two ways to look at this..... 1) If he was truly so drunk that he had NO idea of what he was doing, then fines, apology, community service (as timshatz said) would be in order. 2) If he did know what he was doing, and purposely urinated on a war memorial, then I'm with Joe. TO __________________ *“Let's get Enterprise* and Hornet turned into the wind."**

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vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,768	Let the Vets return the favor. __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

11-05-2009, 11:50 AM	#2
timshatz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Phila, Pa Posts: 3,446	Stupid drunk thing caught on camera. If you haven't done it, you will. And boy, do those pictures come back to haunt you. While I don't condone what he did, he shows a lot of remorse and didn't mean it as some kind of "flag burning" event. He was really, really drunk. Stupid drunk thing to do. Drank a whole bottle of whiskey, damn....that's a lot whiskey. Let him off with a public apology and public service cleaning up a Vetran's cemetery or two.

11-05-2009, 04:26 PM	#7
Ferdinand Foch Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stafford Springs, Connecticut Posts: 510	Wow, if its just an accident, give him a fine, or some community work, and let him be on his way (though a vet may just try to shoot his a@@). IT WAS STILL A LOUSY THING TO DO. I don't even want to think of what I would do for punishment if that was my son. __________________ "It is my considered opinion that in the fullness of time history will record the greatness of Michael Collins, and it will be recorded at my expense." -Eamon de Valera. "Better to fight for something than live for nothing." -George S. Patton. "I don't know what the effect of the men will have on the enemy, but, by god, they frighten me." -Arthur Wellesley.

11-05-2009, 05:29 PM	#10
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	may he be stung by a thousand scorpions ..................right in the nutz idiot ! __________________ Rip it up !

11-05-2009, 05:32 PM	#11
Bug_racer Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 55	Send him to Iraq for 3 months . Im sure he will learn respect there

11-05-2009, 06:34 PM	#12
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,506	Fu*kin dumbass..... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

11-05-2009, 08:11 PM	#14
proton45 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 415	Todays drunken act of urination can be a lot more dangerous then in the past...if "ones" not careful you can be arrested for being a sex offender. All things being considered, this kid got off light. Clearly this was NO political statement...just drunken stupidity.

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