Vietnam War architect Robert McNamara dies. - Aircraft of World War II

Colin1 · 07-06-2009, 10:47 AM

Robert McNamara, ex-defense secretary, dies - CNN.com

lingo · 07-06-2009, 11:18 AM

I always thought that he possessed an exceptional brain.

timshatz · 07-06-2009, 12:10 PM

Number junkie. Smart guy, but didn't always make smart decisions. Think he has a very critical and singular responsibility for Vietnam. Not all of it, but a chunk of it. It was his war as much as it was Westmoreland's and Johnson's.

syscom3 · 07-06-2009, 01:33 PM

I do think he shares much of the blame for what went wrong in Vietnam.

He screwed up in a big way.

I wont celebrate his death, but I also wont salute his achievments.

RabidAlien · 07-06-2009, 04:32 PM

Robert McNamara, former secretary of defence under John F Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, dies | World news | guardian.co.uk

Bucksnort101 · 07-06-2009, 04:53 PM

What are we supposed to be rejoicing here, the death of this man or something else? I'm a bit confused to the title of this thread?

Doughboy · 07-06-2009, 04:57 PM

As Bucksnort said.... What is there to rejoice about?

RabidAlien · 07-06-2009, 05:00 PM

Probably not a good choice of title....but McNamara was the Secretary of Defense who mismanaged the Vietnam War. I've always thought he ranked right up there with Jane Fonda on the Vietnam Vet Loathing List. Could be wrong, though...if I am, could a Mod edit the title of this thread?

Bucksnort101 · 07-06-2009, 05:11 PM

That's is why I asked the question. Not trying to stir the pot, just wanted some clarification. No need to comment further.

RabidAlien · 07-06-2009, 05:20 PM

No worries. Dad never talked much about his Vietnam time, but he was consistently adamant about his hatred for those two individuals. I haven't had much opportunity to spend time with other Vietnam vets, so I wasn't 100% sure it was a universal thing.

Bucksnort101 · 07-06-2009, 05:31 PM

I think most Vietnam Vets have more respect for a rabid dog that just bit them on the leg than they do Jane.

drgondog · 07-06-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syscom3

I do think he shares much of the blame for what went wrong in Vietnam.

He screwed up in a big way.

I wont celebrate his death, but I also wont salute his achievments.

very close to my own sentiments! Not sure what his achievements were except as an architect for poor execution for war in Viet Nam. Certainly not Edsel or the F-111.

Colin1 · 07-06-2009, 06:08 PM

Errrrr hang on a minute...
I didn't title this thread 'A time to rejoice' - I don't care what he's done, I wouldn't ask anyone to rejoice over a person's death

...and what's my Vietnam thread doing in Off Topic?

Catch22 · 07-06-2009, 06:13 PM

It got merged with RA's thread.

Colin1 · 07-06-2009, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catch22

It got merged with RA's thread.

If it's got my name down as the originator, do you not think it could have kept my title? It was a little more civil.

Edit: Well, almost. Can we just get rid of the 'Time to rejoice' nonsense? I don't think a person's death is anything to cheer about

07-06-2009, 10:47 AM	#1
Colin1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,766	Vietnam War architect Robert McNamara dies. Robert McNamara, ex-defense secretary, dies - CNN.com

07-06-2009, 01:33 PM	#4
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,283	I do think he shares much of the blame for what went wrong in Vietnam. He screwed up in a big way. I wont celebrate his death, but I also wont salute his achievments. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

07-06-2009, 04:32 PM	#5
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,827	A time to rejoice? Robert McNamara, former secretary of defence under John F Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, dies \| World news \| guardian.co.uk __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

07-06-2009, 04:53 PM	#6
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,204	What are we supposed to be rejoicing here, the death of this man or something else? I'm a bit confused to the title of this thread? __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

07-06-2009, 04:57 PM	#7
Doughboy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 885	As Bucksnort said.... What is there to rejoice about? __________________ "This is the day which the lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it." Psalms 118:24

07-06-2009, 11:18 AM	#2
lingo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Penzance Cornwall UK Posts: 131	I always thought that he possessed an exceptional brain.

07-06-2009, 12:10 PM	#3
timshatz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Phila, Pa Posts: 3,446	Number junkie. Smart guy, but didn't always make smart decisions. Think he has a very critical and singular responsibility for Vietnam. Not all of it, but a chunk of it. It was his war as much as it was Westmoreland's and Johnson's.

07-06-2009, 05:00 PM	#8
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,827	Probably not a good choice of title....but McNamara was the Secretary of Defense who mismanaged the Vietnam War. I've always thought he ranked right up there with Jane Fonda on the Vietnam Vet Loathing List. Could be wrong, though...if I am, could a Mod edit the title of this thread? __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

07-06-2009, 05:11 PM	#9
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,204	That's is why I asked the question. Not trying to stir the pot, just wanted some clarification. No need to comment further. __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

07-06-2009, 05:20 PM	#10
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,827	No worries. Dad never talked much about his Vietnam time, but he was consistently adamant about his hatred for those two individuals. I haven't had much opportunity to spend time with other Vietnam vets, so I wasn't 100% sure it was a universal thing. __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

07-06-2009, 05:31 PM	#11
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,204	I think most Vietnam Vets have more respect for a rabid dog that just bit them on the leg than they do Jane. __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

07-06-2009, 06:08 PM	#13
Colin1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,766	Errrrr hang on a minute... I didn't title this thread 'A time to rejoice' - I don't care what he's done, I wouldn't ask anyone to rejoice over a person's death ...and what's my Vietnam thread doing in Off Topic? Last edited by Colin1; 07-06-2009 at 06:12 PM.

07-06-2009, 06:13 PM	#14
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	It got merged with RA's thread. __________________

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