Virginia governor closes gun loophole...

trackend · 05-02-2007, 12:06 PM

Gun Deaths and Injury • In 2004, 29,569 people in the United States died from firearm-related deaths –
11,624 (39%) of those were murder
16,750 (57%) were suicides;
649 (2.2%) were accidents;
and in 235 (.8%) the intent was unknown. [5]
In comparison,
• In 2004, firearms were used to murder 56 people in Australia, 184 people in Canada, 73 people in England and Wales, 5 people in New Zealand, and 37 people in Sweden.[8]

I'm not sure how accurate these figures are and it did'nt cover europe as a whole but I believe it is around 14 deaths per 100,000 in the US and 3-4 per 100,000 in europe

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 12:28 PM

Here is a more telling statistic on Murders Per Capita from UN 1998-2000:

4 per 100,000 in US
1.0 - 1.5 per 100,000 in Western Europe and Canada
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#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
#7 Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
#8 Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
#9 Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
#10 Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
#11 Ukraine: 0.094006 per 1,000 people
#12 Papua New Guinea: 0.0838593 per 1,000 people
#13 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0802565 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
#15 Moldova: 0.0781145 per 1,000 people
#16 Zimbabwe: 0.0749938 per 1,000 people
#17 Seychelles: 0.0739025 per 1,000 people
#18 Zambia: 0.070769 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.061006 per 1,000 people
#20 Poland: 0.0562789 per 1,000 people
#21 Georgia: 0.0511011 per 1,000 people
#22 Uruguay: 0.045082 per 1,000 people
#23 Bulgaria: 0.0445638 per 1,000 people
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people
#26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
#27 Yemen: 0.0336276 per 1,000 people
#28 Dominica: 0.0289733 per 1,000 people
#29 Azerbaijan: 0.0285642 per 1,000 people
#30 Finland: 0.0283362 per 1,000 people
#31 Slovakia: 0.0263303 per 1,000 people
#32 Romania: 0.0250784 per 1,000 people
#33 Portugal: 0.0233769 per 1,000 people
#34 Malaysia: 0.0230034 per 1,000 people
#35 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0229829 per 1,000 people
#36 Mauritius: 0.021121 per 1,000 people
#37 Hungary: 0.0204857 per 1,000 people
#38 Korea, South: 0.0196336 per 1,000 people
#39 Slovenia: 0.0179015 per 1,000 people
#40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
#41 Czech Republic: 0.0169905 per 1,000 people
#42 Iceland: 0.0168499 per 1,000 people
#43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
#44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
#45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
#46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people
#47 Italy: 0.0128393 per 1,000 people
#48 Spain: 0.0122456 per 1,000 people
#49 Germany: 0.0116461 per 1,000 people
#50 Tunisia: 0.0112159 per 1,000 people
#51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
#52 New Zealand: 0.0111524 per 1,000 people
#53 Denmark: 0.0106775 per 1,000 people
#54 Norway: 0.0106684 per 1,000 people
#55 Ireland: 0.00946215 per 1,000 people
#56 Switzerland: 0.00921351 per 1,000 people
#57 Indonesia: 0.00910842 per 1,000 people
#58 Greece: 0.0075928 per 1,000 people
#59 Hong Kong: 0.00550804 per 1,000 people
#60 Japan: 0.00499933 per 1,000 people
#61 Saudi Arabia: 0.00397456 per 1,000 people
#62 Qatar: 0.00115868 per 1,000 people

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 12:33 PM

And here is manslaughter per capita:

[The unlawful killing of another without intent to kill; either voluntary (upon a sudden impulse); or involuntary (during the commission of an unlawful act not ordinarily expected to result in great bodily harm).]

Note that while numerous Western European countries and Austrailia, New Zealand and Japan are included in the top 43, the US is not even listed.
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#1 South Africa: 0.247181 per 1,000 people
#2 Mexico: 0.17057 per 1,000 people
#3 Costa Rica: 0.144422 per 1,000 people
#4 Zimbabwe: 0.0796809 per 1,000 people
#5 Korea, South: 0.0768282 per 1,000 people
#6 Romania: 0.0571429 per 1,000 people
#7 Italy: 0.0322014 per 1,000 people
#8 Turkey: 0.0312226 per 1,000 people
#9 Estonia: 0.0202551 per 1,000 people
#10 Bulgaria: 0.0150336 per 1,000 people
#11 Australia: 0.0147337 per 1,000 people
#12 Russia: 0.011672 per 1,000 people
#13 Lithuania: 0.0105644 per 1,000 people
#14 Latvia: 0.0100437 per 1,000 people
#15 Portugal: 0.00936968 per 1,000 people
#16 Norway: 0.00892663 per 1,000 people
#17 Georgia: 0.00855249 per 1,000 people
#18 Belarus: 0.00805825 per 1,000 people
#19 Czech Republic: 0.00781174 per 1,000 people
#20 Ukraine: 0.00712811 per 1,000 people
#21 Qatar: 0.00695208 per 1,000 people
#22 Yemen: 0.00622377 per 1,000 people
#23 Tunisia: 0.00575682 per 1,000 people
#24 Finland: 0.0053609 per 1,000 people
#25 Poland: 0.00492764 per 1,000 people
#26 Moldova: 0.0047138 per 1,000 people
#27 Japan: 0.00401045 per 1,000 people
#28 Denmark: 0.00386598 per 1,000 people
#29 India: 0.00362134 per 1,000 people
#30 Thailand: 0.00358334 per 1,000 people
#31 Zambia: 0.00275262 per 1,000 people
#32 New Zealand: 0.00247831 per 1,000 people
#33 Spain: 0.00235492 per 1,000 people
#34 Ireland: 0.00224104 per 1,000 people
#35 Hungary: 0.00209853 per 1,000 people
#36 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.00195599 per 1,000 people
#37 Greece: 0.00178103 per 1,000 people
#38 Indonesia: 0.00173572 per 1,000 people
#39 Mauritius: 0.0016247 per 1,000 people
#40 Canada: 0.00158512 per 1,000 people
#41 Uruguay: 0.0014637 per 1,000 people
#42 Saudi Arabia: 0.00075706 per 1,000 people
#43 Hong Kong: 0.000724743 per 1,000 people

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 12:37 PM

And here are the assaults per capita;

[Note that the legal definition of assault varies between jurisdictions. Thus "assault" in the US and many western countries can be verbal alone.]
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#1 South Africa: 12.0752 per 1,000 people
#2 Montserrat: 10.2773 per 1,000 people
#3 Mauritius: 8.76036 per 1,000 people
#4 Seychelles: 8.62196 per 1,000 people
#5 Zimbabwe: 7.6525 per 1,000 people
#6 United States: 7.56923 per 1,000 people
#7 New Zealand: 7.47881 per 1,000 people
#8 United Kingdom: 7.45959 per 1,000 people
#9 Canada: 7.11834 per 1,000 people
#10 Australia: 7.02459 per 1,000 people
#11 Finland: 5.32644 per 1,000 people
#12 Iceland: 4.66406 per 1,000 people
#13 Tunisia: 4.02561 per 1,000 people
#14 Jamaica: 3.95943 per 1,000 people
#15 Portugal: 3.59445 per 1,000 people
#16 Chile: 3.32476 per 1,000 people
#17 Norway: 3.2064 per 1,000 people
#18 Netherlands: 2.68964 per 1,000 people
#19 Ireland: 2.47037 per 1,000 people
#20 Mexico: 2.40275 per 1,000 people
#21 Spain: 2.24221 per 1,000 people
#22 Czech Republic: 2.14803 per 1,000 people
#23 Zambia: 1.96475 per 1,000 people
#24 Denmark: 1.80339 per 1,000 people
#25 France: 1.75554 per 1,000 people
#26 Germany: 1.4183 per 1,000 people
#27 Uruguay: 1.34192 per 1,000 people
#28 Hungary: 1.11532 per 1,000 people
#29 Slovenia: 1.09796 per 1,000 people
#30 Hong Kong: 1.07987 per 1,000 people
#31 Dominica: 1.01407 per 1,000 people
#32 Poland: 0.850459 per 1,000 people
#33 Turkey: 0.76779 per 1,000 people
#34 Slovakia: 0.686982 per 1,000 people
#35 Colombia: 0.587116 per 1,000 people
#36 Belarus: 0.543689 per 1,000 people
#37 Italy: 0.500284 per 1,000 people
#38 Romania: 0.419615 per 1,000 people
#39 Bulgaria: 0.41396 per 1,000 people
#40 Qatar: 0.378888 per 1,000 people
#41 Latvia: 0.360262 per 1,000 people
#42 Estonia: 0.345086 per 1,000 people
#43 Japan: 0.339272 per 1,000 people
#44 Thailand: 0.313542 per 1,000 people
#45 Greece: 0.311399 per 1,000 people
#46 Korea, South: 0.30684 per 1,000 people
#47 Moldova: 0.272952 per 1,000 people
#48 Papua New Guinea: 0.243643 per 1,000 people
#49 India: 0.218755 per 1,000 people
#50 Costa Rica: 0.178287 per 1,000 people
#51 Saudi Arabia: 0.178098 per 1,000 people
#52 Ukraine: 0.112007 per 1,000 people
#53 Georgia: 0.10434 per 1,000 people
#54 Indonesia: 0.0767107 per 1,000 people
#55 Yemen: 0.0489699 per 1,000 people
#56 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0404197 per 1,000 people
#57 Azerbaijan: 0.0252781 per 1,000 people

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 12:41 PM

And rapes per capita:
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#1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people
#2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people
#3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
#4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people
#5 Canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people
#6 Jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people
#7 Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people
#8 Dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people
#9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
#10 Iceland: 0.246009 per 1,000 people
#11 Papua New Guinea: 0.233544 per 1,000 people
#12 New Zealand: 0.213383 per 1,000 people
#13 United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people
#14 Spain: 0.140403 per 1,000 people
#15 France: 0.139442 per 1,000 people
#16 Korea, South: 0.12621 per 1,000 people
#17 Mexico: 0.122981 per 1,000 people
#18 Norway: 0.120836 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.118277 per 1,000 people
#20 Venezuela: 0.115507 per 1,000 people
#21 Finland: 0.110856 per 1,000 people
#22 Netherlands: 0.100445 per 1,000 people
#23 Denmark: 0.0914948 per 1,000 people
#24 Germany: 0.0909731 per 1,000 people
#25 Bulgaria: 0.0795973 per 1,000 people
#26 Chile: 0.0782179 per 1,000 people
#27 Thailand: 0.0626305 per 1,000 people
#28 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0623785 per 1,000 people
#29 Poland: 0.062218 per 1,000 people
#30 Sri Lanka: 0.0599053 per 1,000 people
#31 Hungary: 0.0588588 per 1,000 people
#32 Estonia: 0.0547637 per 1,000 people
#33 Ireland: 0.0542829 per 1,000 people
#34 Switzerland: 0.0539458 per 1,000 people
#35 Belarus: 0.0514563 per 1,000 people
#36 Uruguay: 0.0512295 per 1,000 people
#37 Lithuania: 0.0508757 per 1,000 people
#38 Malaysia: 0.0505156 per 1,000 people
#39 Romania: 0.0497089 per 1,000 people
#40 Czech Republic: 0.0488234 per 1,000 people
#41 Russia: 0.0486543 per 1,000 people
#42 Latvia: 0.0454148 per 1,000 people
#43 Moldova: 0.0448934 per 1,000 people
#44 Colombia: 0.0433254 per 1,000 people
#45 Slovenia: 0.0427648 per 1,000 people
#46 Italy: 0.0402045 per 1,000 people
#47 Portugal: 0.0364376 per 1,000 people
#48 Tunisia: 0.0331514 per 1,000 people
#49 Zambia: 0.0266383 per 1,000 people
#50 Ukraine: 0.0244909 per 1,000 people
#51 Slovakia: 0.0237525 per 1,000 people
#52 Mauritius: 0.0219334 per 1,000 people
#53 Turkey: 0.0180876 per 1,000 people
#54 Japan: 0.017737 per 1,000 people
#55 Hong Kong: 0.0150746 per 1,000 people
#56 India: 0.0143187 per 1,000 people
#57 Qatar: 0.0139042 per 1,000 people
#58 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0132029 per 1,000 people
#59 Greece: 0.0106862 per 1,000 people
#60 Georgia: 0.0100492 per 1,000 people
#61 Armenia: 0.00938652 per 1,000 people
#62 Indonesia: 0.00567003 per 1,000 people
#63 Yemen: 0.0038597 per 1,000 people
#64 Azerbaijan: 0.00379171 per 1,000 people
#65 Saudi Arabia: 0.00329321 per 1,000 people

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 12:43 PM

And robberies per capita:

[The taking, or attempting to take, anything of value from the care, custody, or control of another person or persons by force or threat of force or violence]
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#1 Spain: 12.3265 per 1,000 people
#2 Chile: 6.92522 per 1,000 people
#3 Costa Rica: 4.79109 per 1,000 people
#4 South Africa: 4.4434 per 1,000 people
#5 Estonia: 3.56639 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico: 2.02555 per 1,000 people
#7 Portugal: 1.6237 per 1,000 people
#8 United Kingdom: 1.57433 per 1,000 people
#9 Uruguay: 1.57114 per 1,000 people
#10 Poland: 1.38838 per 1,000 people
#11 United States: 1.38527 per 1,000 people
#12 Latvia: 1.37991 per 1,000 people
#13 Venezuela: 1.37833 per 1,000 people
#14 Lithuania: 1.21601 per 1,000 people
#15 Australia: 1.16048 per 1,000 people
#16 Netherlands: 1.13549 per 1,000 people
#17 Zimbabwe: 0.974838 per 1,000 people
#18 Mauritius: 0.947197 per 1,000 people
#19 Russia: 0.923114 per 1,000 people
#20 Jamaica: 0.851974 per 1,000 people
#21 Dominica: 0.82574 per 1,000 people
#22 Canada: 0.823411 per 1,000 people
#23 Germany: 0.720773 per 1,000 people
#24 Seychelles: 0.652806 per 1,000 people
#25 Italy: 0.649295 per 1,000 people
#26 Malaysia: 0.613535 per 1,000 people
#27 Papua New Guinea: 0.612083 per 1,000 people
#28 Ireland: 0.601096 per 1,000 people
#29 Denmark: 0.580265 per 1,000 people
#30 Bulgaria: 0.572617 per 1,000 people
#31 Colombia: 0.571239 per 1,000 people
#32 Moldova: 0.569921 per 1,000 people
#33 Belarus: 0.550291 per 1,000 people
#34 Finland: 0.497798 per 1,000 people
#35 Hong Kong: 0.497608 per 1,000 people
#36 Ukraine: 0.455965 per 1,000 people
#37 New Zealand: 0.439901 per 1,000 people
#38 France: 0.400686 per 1,000 people
#39 Czech Republic: 0.400254 per 1,000 people
#40 Norway: 0.387764 per 1,000 people
#41 Hungary: 0.349156 per 1,000 people
#42 Kyrgyzstan: 0.290906 per 1,000 people
#43 Switzerland: 0.290827 per 1,000 people
#44 Indonesia: 0.253168 per 1,000 people
#45 Zambia: 0.239655 per 1,000 people
#46 Slovenia: 0.235704 per 1,000 people
#47 Slovakia: 0.232738 per 1,000 people
#48 Sri Lanka: 0.231597 per 1,000 people
#49 Romania: 0.185535 per 1,000 people
#50 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.144743 per 1,000 people
#51 Iceland: 0.11458 per 1,000 people
#52 Tunisia: 0.0950869 per 1,000 people
#53 Korea, South: 0.093008 per 1,000 people
#54 Greece: 0.078084 per 1,000 people
#55 Georgia: 0.0718409 per 1,000 people
#56 Armenia: 0.0543077 per 1,000 people
#57 Japan: 0.040599 per 1,000 people
#58 India: 0.0263001 per 1,000 people
#59 Turkey: 0.0234421 per 1,000 people
#60 Saudi Arabia: 0.0226361 per 1,000 people
#61 Azerbaijan: 0.0183266 per 1,000 people
#62 Thailand: 0.0121522 per 1,000 people
#63 Yemen: 0.00844309 per 1,000 people
#64 Qatar: 0.00463472 per 1,000 people

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 12:47 PM

And crime per capita:

[Note that crime statistics are better indicators of the presence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual crime prevalence]
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#1 Dominica: 113.822 per 1,000 people
#2 New Zealand: 105.881 per 1,000 people
#3 Finland: 101.526 per 1,000 people
#4 Denmark: 92.8277 per 1,000 people
#5 Chile: 88.226 per 1,000 people
#6 United Kingdom: 85.5517 per 1,000 people
#7 Montserrat: 80.3982 per 1,000 people
#8 United States: 80.0645 per 1,000 people
#9 Netherlands: 79.5779 per 1,000 people
#10 South Africa: 77.1862 per 1,000 people
#11 Germany: 75.9996 per 1,000 people
#12 Canada: 75.4921 per 1,000 people
#13 Norway: 71.8639 per 1,000 people
#14 France: 62.1843 per 1,000 people
#15 Seychelles: 52.9265 per 1,000 people
#16 Hungary: 44.9763 per 1,000 people
#17 Estonia: 43.3601 per 1,000 people
#18 Czech Republic: 38.2257 per 1,000 people
#19 Italy: 37.9633 per 1,000 people
#20 Switzerland: 36.1864 per 1,000 people
#21 Portugal: 34.3833 per 1,000 people
#22 Slovenia: 33.6236 per 1,000 people
#23 Poland: 32.8573 per 1,000 people
#24 Korea, South: 31.7267 per 1,000 people
#25 Mauritius: 29.1982 per 1,000 people
#26 Zimbabwe: 28.8753 per 1,000 people
#27 Lithuania: 22.8996 per 1,000 people
#28 Spain: 22.8867 per 1,000 people
#29 Latvia: 21.921 per 1,000 people
#30 Uruguay: 21.7017 per 1,000 people
#31 Russia: 20.5855 per 1,000 people
#32 Ireland: 20.2376 per 1,000 people
#33 Bulgaria: 19.9886 per 1,000 people
#34 Japan: 19.177 per 1,000 people
#35 Romania: 16.4812 per 1,000 people
#36 Slovakia: 16.3537 per 1,000 people
#37 Jamaica: 14.3231 per 1,000 people
#38 Belarus: 13.1592 per 1,000 people
#39 Mexico: 12.8406 per 1,000 people
#40 Tunisia: 12.5634 per 1,000 people
#41 Costa Rica: 11.9788 per 1,000 people
#42 Ukraine: 11.7793 per 1,000 people
#43 Hong Kong: 11.6817 per 1,000 people
#44 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 9.689 per 1,000 people
#45 Greece: 9.6347 per 1,000 people
#46 Venezuela: 9.307 per 1,000 people
#47 Thailand: 8.80422 per 1,000 people
#48 Moldova: 8.58967 per 1,000 people
#49 Kyrgyzstan: 7.50486 per 1,000 people
#50 Malaysia: 6.97921 per 1,000 people
#51 Qatar: 6.76437 per 1,000 people
#52 Zambia: 5.27668 per 1,000 people
#53 Colombia: 4.98654 per 1,000 people
#54 Turkey: 4.11252 per 1,000 people
#55 Armenia: 4.03889 per 1,000 people
#56 Georgia: 3.21338 per 1,000 people
#57 Papua New Guinea: 2.39711 per 1,000 people
#58 Azerbaijan: 1.76416 per 1,000 people
#59 India: 1.63352 per 1,000 people
#60 Yemen: 1.16109 per 1,000 people

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 12:51 PM

And just for grins, police per capita:

[Interesting to think that with Italy having 5 police per 1,000, that in a typical highschool in the US with 1500 students, that would mean 7 or 8 policemen on campus! That would be unheard of!!!]

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#1 Montserrat: 7.81501 per 1,000 people
#2 Mauritius: 7.28432 per 1,000 people
#3 Dominica: 6.40311 per 1,000 people
#4 Italy: 5.55565 per 1,000 people
#5 Hong Kong: 4.79374 per 1,000 people
#6 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 4.7868 per 1,000 people
#7 Portugal: 4.64878 per 1,000 people
#8 Kazakhstan: 4.54998 per 1,000 people
#9 Latvia: 4.51878 per 1,000 people
#10 Czech Republic: 4.47613 per 1,000 people
#11 Slovakia: 3.72086 per 1,000 people
#12 Lithuania: 3.53934 per 1,000 people
#13 Malaysia: 3.43936 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 3.35665 per 1,000 people
#15 Kyrgyzstan: 3.25049 per 1,000 people
#16 Slovenia: 3.14023 per 1,000 people
#17 Moldova: 3.01481 per 1,000 people
#18 Germany: 2.91153 per 1,000 people
#19 Ireland: 2.8989 per 1,000 people
#20 Hungary: 2.88528 per 1,000 people
#21 Spain: 2.86696 per 1,000 people
#22 South Africa: 2.7668 per 1,000 people
#23 Estonia: 2.72543 per 1,000 people
#24 Poland: 2.61367 per 1,000 people
#25 Jamaica: 2.57054 per 1,000 people
#26 Georgia: 2.46034 per 1,000 people
#27 Norway: 2.42412 per 1,000 people
#28 Turkey: 2.38057 per 1,000 people
#29 Iceland: 2.24441 per 1,000 people
#30 Romania: 2.18728 per 1,000 people
#31 Colombia: 2.12215 per 1,000 people
#32 Australia: 2.09293 per 1,000 people
#33 France: 2.049 per 1,000 people
#34 United Kingdom: 2.04871 per 1,000 people
#35 Switzerland: 1.93617 per 1,000 people
#36 Netherlands: 1.92448 per 1,000 people
#37 Denmark: 1.91716 per 1,000 people
#38 Chile: 1.85583 per 1,000 people
#39 Korea, South: 1.85461 per 1,000 people
#40 Japan: 1.81103 per 1,000 people
#41 Sri Lanka: 1.72484 per 1,000 people
#42 Canada: 1.70767 per 1,000 people
#43 Zimbabwe: 1.68859 per 1,000 people
#44 Finland: 1.56347 per 1,000 people
#45 Zambia: 1.13674 per 1,000 people
#46 Papua New Guinea: 0.985032 per 1,000 people
#47 India: 0.956207 per 1,000 people
#48 Costa Rica: 0.370767 per 1,000 people

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-02-2007, 01:14 PM

The US may have more gun related violence but in all those other countries they use knives, bats, sticks, and whatever else. I think the rest of the world should ban knives and bats and sticks.

See how stupid this is.

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 01:24 PM

You know two things come to mind when you read these statistics.

1) Whether the murder/homicide/manslaughter rates are artificially inflated by criminal-on-criminal acts, and;

2) Whether the legal systems in individual countries operate with dissimilar justice systems, legal definitions, common reporting by victims and unique customs that impact all of the above.

I bet if you really did your homework that the actual comparisons between dissimilar countries is nothing more than a vague benchmark and is really statistically meaningless.

trackend · 05-02-2007, 02:23 PM

I wondered how long it would take for a reply to that post, 22 minutes . Not bad

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 02:48 PM

trackend · 05-03-2007, 12:36 AM

Matt308 · 05-07-2007, 03:03 PM

I think this says it all...

Clave · 05-09-2007, 07:32 AM

I'd like to see the stats of legal vs illegal firearm homicides...

I don't think America has anything to lose by trying gun control.

If take as many guns as possible out of circulation, it will have an effect...