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05-10-2007, 10:36 AM
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And I just want to say at this point, that I don't want to lose any friends over something as simple as a discussion... 
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05-10-2007, 10:39 AM
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#47 | | Der Crewchief
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Sorry Clave, I have nothing but respect for you and this does not change that but I think you are misguided in your opinions on some of this.
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05-10-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Clave  Ah well matt, maybe I was just in a bad mood..
And I just want to say at this point, that I don't want to lose any friends over something as simple as a discussion... | Who says you are losing friends? It's all good. Well... except maybe Doug won't talk to me anymore. And civvetone. And...
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05-10-2007, 10:50 AM
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And I'm not, I say again, not blaming the USA for it's culture or 'sub culture' in the case of of gangs and stuff.
All I am saying is that these things exist and by existing, they are copied over here.
I can't say why, it's like, I don't know.. McDonalds.. they have spread all over this land, and become part of our culture now.
The same thing is happening with the 'bad' side too, it's just something that happens, not a cause for finger-pointing or shouting..
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05-10-2007, 10:51 AM
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05-10-2007, 11:05 AM
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05-10-2007, 11:07 AM
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05-10-2007, 11:10 AM
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Some points here - a lot of the violence is due to the parents and the tolerance they have for some of the culture (gagsta rap, glorification of gangs, etc.) that perpetuates violence. Many of these parents a few years earlier were the same thugs we're talking about and maybe still are!
It's funny, ask a "minority" kid about gangstas, rap, or gangbangin, or violent video games and they are all experts, ask them who was the first "minority" astronaut (in conjunction with their ethnic background) and you'll get a blank stare. The same if you ask about a Nobel Prize winner, a decorated soldier or inventor. Being a "banger" is just an easy way out to be cool and it provides a level of acceptance that is lacking in their normal family.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Look at your population, look at ours. I promise you, if you had the population that we have you would have the same amount of gun related murder.
No, dont blame the UKs problems or future problems on the US. That is a poor excuse... | Im not sure on that Adler, I think the UK is around 60million people with roughly750 murders annually.
The US is around 300million with roughly 15000 murders would that not mean if the UK had the same populace it would have around 3750 murders or am I being a bit simplistic in that view ?
But I definately agree with you that the UK's problems or those to come are nothing to do with the US. no one is forced to copy or follow anything the states does (other than of course some finacial directions which is an effect of it being by far the biggest economy in the world ) | |
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05-10-2007, 11:16 AM
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05-10-2007, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Clave I can't say why, it's like, I don't know.. McDonalds.. they have spread all over this land, and become part of our culture now. | Actually that is the part that I would be pissed off the most about. I hate fast food. Yeah I eat it sometimes but I hate it.
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05-10-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ No problem Clave - I think everything is civil.....
Some points here - a lot of the violence is due to the parents and the tolerance they have for some of the culture (gagsta rap, glorification of gangs, etc.) that perpetuates violence. Many of these parents a few years earlier were the same thugs we're talking about and maybe still are!
It's funny, ask a "minority" kid about gangstas, rap, or gangbangin, or violent video games and they are all experts, ask them who was the first "minority" astronaut (in conjunction with their ethnic background) and you'll get a blank stare. The same if you ask about a Nobel Prize winner, a decorated soldier or inventor. Being a "banger" is just an easy way out to be cool and it provides a level of acceptance that is lacking in their normal family. | And that is the truth! But be careful FBJ, you might have Al Sharpton knocking on your door after you posted this...
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05-10-2007, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by trackend Im not sure on that Adler, I think the UK is around 60million people with roughly750 murders annually.
The US is around 300million with roughly 15000 murders would that not mean if the UK had the same populace it would have around 3750 murders or am I being a bit simplistic in that view ? | The more populace the more probability of someone turning to crime, therefore it would be more. Atleast I think so.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet And that is the truth! But be careful FBJ, you might have Al Sharpton knocking on your door after you posted this... | WORKS FOR ME! 
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