Virginia governor closes gun loophole...

Lucky13 · 04-30-2007, 02:12 PM

By BOB LEWIS, Associated Press Writer
28 minutes ago

RICHMOND, Va. - The governor on Monday closed the loophole in state law that allowed the Virginia Tech gunman to pass a federal background check and buy the weapons used in the massacre.

Gov. Timothy M. Kaine issued an executive order requiring that a database of people banned from buying guns include anyone who is found to be dangerous and ordered to undergo involuntary mental health treatment.

Seung-Hui Cho had been ordered to undergo psychiatric counseling after a judge ruled that he was a danger to himself.

But because Cho was treated as an outpatient and never committed to a mental health hospital, the court's decision was not entered into the database that gun dealers must check before selling a weapon.

The database "should include any determination that someone is mentally ill and so dangerous to himself or others as to warrant involuntary treatment," Kaine said in a statement.

Cho, a 23-year-old Virginia Tech senior described as a troubled loner, bought his guns legally through gun shops. He gunned down 32 people in a residence hall and a classroom building before killing himself.

No motive has been established for his rampage.

Maharg · 05-01-2007, 03:11 AM

Good. A bit late though.

timshatz · 05-01-2007, 08:09 AM

Normally not a great fan of gun control laws but in this case, it has to be done. More than just good reason.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-01-2007, 09:01 AM

I think it is funny. The rest of the world talks **** about the US gun control laws and say that they dont have problems as the US does. That is bullshit. Just in Germany here alone in a weeks time period there have been 4 high profile slaying by gunmen.

About an hour from here, 2 police were shot in the head by and unknown shooter who has now disappeared. Then 3 days later a man killed his wife and then shot himself on an open street in front of there kids. Yeah gun control works. People are not allowed to have guns like this here, but people are still getting shot!

What does that tell you? That the people get the guns illegally and that is what happens in the US as well. So give it up people!

Matt308 · 05-01-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

What does that tell you? That the people get the guns illegally and that is what happens in the US as well. So give it up people!

C'mon Adler. Your logic is flawed. The world knows that if the US banned guns, then the evil baddies worldwide would not be able to import illegal guns into their own countries. It's Bush's fault.

What I find so ironic about claiming that the VA Governor has accomplished such good, is that there already was a law on on the VA books that stated during the background check that mental illness was an immediate disqualifier for obtaining a gun. The law was already on the books, they state was not complying with its own damn law. Sounds like a lawsuit to me.

mkloby · 05-01-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

C'mon Adler. Your logic is flawed. The world knows that if the US banned guns, then the evil baddies worldwide would not be able to import illegal guns into their own countries. It's Bush's fault.

What I find so ironic about claiming that the VA Governor has accomplished such good, is that there already was a law on on the VA books that stated during the background check that mental illness was an immediate disqualifier for obtaining a gun. The law was already on the books, they state was not complying with its own damn law. Sounds like a lawsuit to me.

Matt, are suggesting possible breakdowns in the bureaucracies that are the federal, state, and local governments???

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-02-2007, 09:35 AM

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It's Bush's fault.

Oh yeah, ofcourse I forgot! He is the cause of global warming and all of the worlds problems too.

Negative Creep · 05-02-2007, 09:55 AM

Guns are all but impossible to own legally here, yet gun crime still occurs. Criminalise guns and the only ones with the guns will be the criminals. If someone really wants a firearm, then laws or restrictions will not stop them, they will just buy one illegally

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-02-2007, 09:57 AM

Bingo! And that is what we have been saying all the time, but the people outside of the US seem to know better how to mannage the laws of the US.

Negative Creep · 05-02-2007, 09:59 AM

Isn't Switzerland pretty much the only European country where guns are readily available?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-02-2007, 10:02 AM

Thats because everyone is technically in the military. My soon to be brother in law is no longer on active duty but he is required by law to be in the reserves and his equipment and rifle is at his house.

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 10:26 AM

...and its full auto.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-02-2007, 10:28 AM

I dont know what gun he has...

Its Bush's fault though!

Negative Creep · 05-02-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I dont know what gun he has...

Its Bush's fault though!

And climate change

Matt308 · 05-02-2007, 11:23 AM

That reminds me of whiney liberals... is Civvetone coming back or is he gone for good. I couldn't figure out whether he was just incommunicado for a week and was calling it quits.