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04-16-2007, 11:58 PM
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#16 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | unfortunately, this may not be the last school shooting that takes place
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04-17-2007, 12:48 AM
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04-17-2007, 02:39 AM
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Country: | Extremely distressing for all involved..........
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04-17-2007, 06:49 AM
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#19 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | We have 2 threads on this running so I brought this over from ther other thread... Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkeEins  and of course gun control would make it a bit harder than being able to buy an assault rifle over the counter no questions asked.... | WRONG!!!!!!
One thing Europeans (And other folks) don't understand is that most of the gun violence committed in the US is done so with illegally purchased or acquired guns. Assault rifles are not the choice weapon of a criminal in this country as many of them are are bulky and hard to conceal and many of them cannot be bought over the counter in this country as many of them are banned, some by individual states, another myth bought by then rest of the world when US gun laws are scrutinized. The massacre committed yesterday was done with handguns. Whether this nut purchased these guns legally is another story.
BTW Virginia Tech had regulations about firearms on campus - Students and faculty members are forbidden to bring firearms in the dorms and in the classrooms - that regulation was a big help yesterday. 
The highest gun crime rate in the US is in Washington DC, where the most restrictive gun laws in the nation are. The lowest is in Arizona, with the most permissive gun laws. A direct correlation, maybe, maybe not. In the 1800s most males went armed, and many females. There were still murders, some multiple. The abundance of, or lack of, armed individuals is not a deterrent to one obsessed with this type of action.
For several years screwdrivers have been used for violent attacks more often than knives. Should we restrict or outlaw them? What about base ball bats? There were murders long before firearms, it goes with our species.
My point is, no amount of laws would have prevented this. One that is intent on murder or any other crime is not deterred by laws. Laws are on the books to keep honest people honest and to punish after the fact. Hindsight is always 20/20. From what I have seen the police reacted with reason as did the University Administration. Some events just can not be altered or controlled. I am sure the lawyers will prey on the victims families and point to scapegoats other than the actual criminal.
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04-17-2007, 10:06 AM
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#20 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | Well said FBJ. Statistics have shown that concealed carry law states have seen their violent crimes go down. As a result, there has been a literal run on states enacting "shall issue" concealed carry gun laws. And now they are saying that this guy was a foreign national. There is another gun law broken.
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04-17-2007, 10:18 AM
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Country: | Here's a link to the a Cell Phone Video on the Campus. Nothing graphic, but unsettling to say the least. Break.com - Funny Pics, Hot Chicks, & Cool Flicks
I don't think the people moving in the vid are the shooter. They seem somewhat oblivious to it all. | |
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04-17-2007, 10:25 AM
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#22 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | I actually heard our local news caster make this statement.
"School shootings have become a fact of life for most students..."
Liberal, mindless sensationalists. I hate them all. 
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04-17-2007, 10:33 AM
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Country:  | Just read whilst browsing that the Westboro' nutjobs are going to protest at the funeral as well...
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04-17-2007, 10:37 AM
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#24 | | the old Sage
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Country: | that small cult will protest anything and everything..........fools | |
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04-17-2007, 10:38 AM
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Country: | WBC to Preach at Funerals of Virginia Tech Dead
WBC will preach at the funerals of the Virginia Tech students killed on campus during a shooting rampage April 16, 2007. You describe this as monumental horror, but you know nothing of horror -- yet. Your bloody tyrant Bush says he is 'horrified' by it all. You know nothing of horror -- yet. Your true horror is coming. "They shall also gird themselves with sackloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads" (Eze. 7:18 ).
Why did this happen, you ask? It's simple. Your military chose to shoot at the servants of God today, and all they got for their effort was terror. Then, the LORD your God sent a crazed madman to shoot at your children. Was God asleep while this took place? Was He on vacation? Of course not. He willed this to happen to punish you for assailing His servants. God Hates America -- Westboro Baptist Church Commentary on the USA
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04-17-2007, 10:41 AM
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#26 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | [heavy sigh...] Free speech and all.
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04-17-2007, 10:43 AM
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#27 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I am sickened as a evangelical to see this cult cry on the name of the FATHER. all I can say is this deceiving groups name and their component will be obliterated........... God's wrath is going to come down hard on them
if they were such a loving "Christian" outfit why aren't they giving up their personal time to see the poor families to console and pray with ? .............
BECAUsE THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN THAT IS WHY ! end of story | |
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04-17-2007, 10:44 AM
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#28 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I think that Free Speech should be taken away from some like these ****s.
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04-17-2007, 10:47 AM
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#29 | | the old Sage
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Country: | sadly these clowns have small children, I would say take them out to Iraq or any spot in the desert and let them wander naked and no water but give the children up to folk that have their heads screwed on right | |
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04-17-2007, 10:54 AM
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#30 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I just read there FAQ on there website they really are a bunch of shitbags. Nothing more than that. I thought about sending them an email but then realized they are not worth the time of my life.
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