When does 'art' become porn? - Page 2 - Aircraft of World War II

Soren · 06-09-2008, 12:42 AM

Freebird,

I googled Miley Cyrus and the picture of her you mentioned (I think atleast) popped up along with articles about it causing a lot of stir. Now looking at the picture is shows nothing other than her back really. Now that having been said it still isn't right, but it's not as vulgar as the case with the art exhibition which I view as downright criminal.

evangilder · 06-09-2008, 09:20 AM

I don't agree with the Miley Cyrus photos either. Anytime a child is exploited like that, it emboldens the next person to take it a step further until it is "normal" by societal standards. It will never be "normal" to me. God help the bastard that even suggests a nude photo of my daughter.

Lucky13 · 06-09-2008, 09:31 AM

I hold you hit Eric...what would you like, a nice baseball bat of hickory wood or a more modern one...?

Njaco · 06-09-2008, 09:34 AM

Its putting the thought in children that acting like that is grown up and OK which it is not.

Same for Jon Bonet Ramsey - those people

dissgust me.

Lucky13 · 06-09-2008, 09:54 AM

...WHO??

Njaco · 06-09-2008, 10:20 AM

JonBenÃ©t Ramsey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"JonBenét Patricia Ramsey (August 6, 1990—December 25, 1996) was an American girl made famous by her mysterious Christmas time murder and the subsequent media coverage. She was found dead in the basement of her parents' home in Boulder, Colorado, nearly eight hours after she was reported missing. The case is notable in both its longevity and the media interest it has generated in the US. After several grand jury hearings, the case is still unsolved."

6 Years old and dressing her up like a floozy to win pageants.

Lucky13 · 06-09-2008, 10:38 AM

Sick!

A4K · 06-09-2008, 10:41 AM

I can't think of a single justifiable reason as to why it was advantageous to use a 13 year old over an 18 year old - unless he's using the 'shock method' to get famous quicker (the old 'get your record banned, and it will sell like hot cakes' trick)..?

evangilder · 06-09-2008, 11:37 AM

I was thinking the same thing, njaco. The whole Ramsey case was disturbing. And Lucky, a good Louisville slugger would definitely do the trick.

Njaco · 06-09-2008, 11:39 AM

They can argue in the courts all they want about art and what isn't - at least there is a yardstick to compare by or start from. But these "Little Miss" pageants are horrible! Someone ought to look into that - I think its just as bad.

Lucky13 · 06-09-2008, 11:47 AM

I couldn't agree with you more Njaco ol' chap...! Should be BANNED!

Soren · 06-09-2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Njaco

They can argue in the courts all they want about art and what isn't - at least there is a yardstick to compare by or start from. But these "Little Miss" pageants are horrible! Someone ought to look into that - I think its just as bad.

Fully agreed.

freebird · 06-09-2008, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Njaco

6 Years old and dressing her up like a floozy to win pageants.

And we wonder why the 12 & 13 yr old girls want to dress up & act like they are adults...

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangilder

I was thinking the same thing, njaco. The whole Ramsey case was disturbing.

Sure was, creepy in fact.

Trebor · 06-09-2008, 08:43 PM

I watch Law & Order Special Victims Unit all the time, and I've learned that child porn can be from infancy to like age 16. I hope they arrest his ass for child endangerment

Maestro · 06-10-2008, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangilder

I was thinking the same thing, njaco. The whole Ramsey case was disturbing. And Lucky, a good Louisville slugger would definitely do the trick.

Uh ? Enlighten me there, Evan... What is a Louisville slugger ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebor

I watch Law & Order Special Victims Unit all the time, and I've learned that child porn can be from infancy to like age 16. I hope they arrest his ass for child endangerment

Yes, in the US at least. Anything pornography made with peoples under the age of concent (16 in the US, 14 in Canada) is considered child pornography. Above that age ( but still under 18 ) it bears an other name... And the punishment is not as severe.

And it just remembered me of something I heard in the news lately... Well, in fact it's two stories. Thanks Howard Stern...

The Associated Press: Teens are sending nude photos via cell phone
Teen Nabbed For Naked MySpace Photos - May 21, 2008

06-09-2008, 12:42 AM	#16
Soren Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,107	Freebird, I googled Miley Cyrus and the picture of her you mentioned (I think atleast) popped up along with articles about it causing a lot of stir. Now looking at the picture is shows nothing other than her back really. Now that having been said it still isn't right, but it's not as vulgar as the case with the art exhibition which I view as downright criminal. __________________ It was like being pushed by an Angel! - Adolf Galland I'm an educated engineer, so I love being technical and appraising of great inventions. So if you think I am being biased about something: Tell me! Then you'll probably find out that I am not

06-09-2008, 09:20 AM	#17
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,807	I don't agree with the Miley Cyrus photos either. Anytime a child is exploited like that, it emboldens the next person to take it a step further until it is "normal" by societal standards. It will never be "normal" to me. God help the bastard that even suggests a nude photo of my daughter. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

06-09-2008, 09:31 AM	#18
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,139	I hold you hit Eric...what would you like, a nice baseball bat of hickory wood or a more modern one...? __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

06-09-2008, 09:34 AM	#19
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,228	Its putting the thought in children that acting like that is grown up and OK which it is not. Same for Jon Bonet Ramsey - those people dissgust me. __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

06-09-2008, 09:54 AM	#20
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,139	...WHO?? __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

06-09-2008, 10:38 AM	#22
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,139	Sick! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

06-09-2008, 10:41 AM	#23
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,224	I can't think of a single justifiable reason as to why it was advantageous to use a 13 year old over an 18 year old - unless he's using the 'shock method' to get famous quicker (the old 'get your record banned, and it will sell like hot cakes' trick)..? Last edited by A4K; 06-09-2008 at 10:43 AM.

06-09-2008, 11:37 AM	#24
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,807	I was thinking the same thing, njaco. The whole Ramsey case was disturbing. And Lucky, a good Louisville slugger would definitely do the trick. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

06-09-2008, 11:39 AM	#25
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,228	They can argue in the courts all they want about art and what isn't - at least there is a yardstick to compare by or start from. But these "Little Miss" pageants are horrible! Someone ought to look into that - I think its just as bad. __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

06-09-2008, 11:47 AM	#26
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,139	I couldn't agree with you more Njaco ol' chap...! Should be BANNED! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

06-09-2008, 08:43 PM	#29
Trebor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,108	I watch Law & Order Special Victims Unit all the time, and I've learned that child porn can be from infancy to like age 16. I hope they arrest his ass for child endangerment __________________ THANKS NJACO FOR THE SIG PIC!! Southern Comfort III of the 8th Air Force, 44th Bombardment Group. Captain George R. Insley (pilot) commanding, Rudolph Jandreau Engineer/top turret gunner

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