When does 'art' become porn? - Page 4 - Aircraft of World War II

Maestro · 06-24-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by evangilder

Stuff happens?!?! He should be furious.

Right on. You know, the fact that somebody is famous doesn't automatically makes him/her smarter. Just look at Jane Fonda !

freebird · 06-24-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Maestro

I think you only forgot to read a tiny word in my post...

Now, if your an adult (18 or over) the second sentence you quoted apply. You can pose nude or you can do porn.

Ok. Sorry, I think perhaps in your post you should have put "woman" {ie over 18} as I understood "girl" to be under 18.

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Originally Posted by Maestro

A nude girl is art.

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Originally Posted by evangilder

Sorry, but trusting your child to a publicist?!? What a friggin' moron. He, of all people ought to know that the one who will know best is one the PARENTS. His quote says it all...
"So I was surprised when I saw it, you know, but ... stuff happens"

Stuff happens?!?! He should be furious.

Eric, from what I understand he was at the photo shoot and had no objections to it at the time, he even saw the proofs of that shot. The only one to blame for failing in his duty is him. When the photographer at the shoot says "Ok, now I need your 15 yr old daughter to take her clothes off" that would be the time for a responsible parent to step in, not crying about it later when the scandal breaks!

Maestro · 06-24-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by freebird

Ok. Sorry, I think perhaps in your post you should have put "woman" {ie over 18} as I understood "girl" to be under 18.

Hmmm... I think you're right. My bad.

freebird · 06-24-2008, 11:53 AM

But getting back to the original post, I think there should be a distinction between the pervert that violates a small child to make porn, and the foolish 15-16 yr old girl who willingly sends nude pictures of herself to her boyfriend. I think she has to take some responsibility in this.

Of course the guy was a creep to post them on the internet, but in the bigger picture I think the message to other young girs shouldn't be "see the bad man is in jail now", but the message too young girls should be:

"if you send nude pics to anyone {even your loving boyfriend} they can end up on the net, with only yourself to blame"

Maybe they would think twice about sending them...

Maestro · 06-24-2008, 01:28 PM

Isn't it already the case ? I mean, what do you propose ? We can't send her to jail.

freebird · 06-25-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Maestro

Isn't it already the case ? I mean, what do you propose ? We can't send her to jail.

I think what I am saying is that they are sending the wrong message to young girls by excessive prosecution {IMO} I don't think the guy deserves major jail time for child porn for pics that she sent him. He should get a misdemeanor something & pay a fine. The "child porn" will get thrown out anyways, as nudity is legal {even for a 15 yr old} unless there is some sexual content

By blowing this up into a big deal, it tells girls that they are the "victim", when really the stupid t**ts are responsible for their own embarassment.

Maestro · 06-28-2008, 08:19 AM

Hah ! Louisiana made a good move...

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal Signs Sex Offender Chemical Castration Bill - DigitalJournal.com: The Power of Citizen Journalism

Maestro · 07-31-2008, 02:29 AM

Sorry for bumping this old thread, but guess what showed up in my browser when I was loging-on to Hotmail...

Safe Sex with Hannah Montana? : Dramarama : CelebEdge : Sympatico / MSN

So now they want to make her sell condoms ? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for teaching the "mysteries of sexuality and safe sex" to teenagers, but I think the message just won't pass.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't she supposed to still be a virgin and "keeping it for marriage" ? I guess it's all the opposite of selling condoms ! I think they would have better luck with a well known slut like Jenna Jameson.

RabidAlien · 07-31-2008, 09:06 AM

....or Britney Spears. Didn't I hear somewhere that her mom made the decision to "market" her daughter as a sex-icon, instead of a "dang, she's a good singer"? The second method works slower, yes, and runs the risk of failure if nobody likes the music. The first is faster, and only sacrifices your daughter's self-esteem and self-respect and sanity.

Maestro · 08-02-2008, 05:10 AM

Yep... But it's almost the same case that Cyrus... Spears was "claiming" to be keeping it for marriage... Even if we all suspect she...

...Nevermind.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-02-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Maestro

Yep... But it's almost the same case that Cyrus... Spears was "claiming" to be keeping it for marriage... Even if we all suspect she sucked some dicks to get a record contract.

Did I just think that out loud ? Woohoops...

Hey chill out! You do not have to be so graphic in your posting! Don't write something like that again! Do you understand??

Aussie1001 · 08-02-2008, 09:28 AM

yeah man that was a bit over the top.

Maestro · 08-02-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie1001

yeah man that was a bit over the top.

Okay, okay... I was saying it more like a joke, but oh, well. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Lucky13 · 08-03-2008, 07:29 AM

I guess that some "under the table dealings" must have been done...cr*p music!

06-24-2008, 11:53 AM	#49
freebird Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,281	But getting back to the original post, I think there should be a distinction between the pervert that violates a small child to make porn, and the foolish 15-16 yr old girl who willingly sends nude pictures of herself to her boyfriend. I think she has to take some responsibility in this. Of course the guy was a creep to post them on the internet, but in the bigger picture I think the message to other young girs shouldn't be "see the bad man is in jail now", but the message too young girls should be: "if you send nude pics to anyone {even your loving boyfriend} they can end up on the net, with only yourself to blame" Maybe they would think twice about sending them... __________________

06-24-2008, 01:28 PM	#50
Maestro Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Beaupré, Province of Québec, Canada Posts: 2,381	Isn't it already the case ? I mean, what do you propose ? We can't send her to jail. __________________ Maestro http://www.yantremblay.com/

06-28-2008, 08:19 AM	#52
Maestro Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Beaupré, Province of Québec, Canada Posts: 2,381	Hah ! Louisiana made a good move... Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal Signs Sex Offender Chemical Castration Bill - DigitalJournal.com: The Power of Citizen Journalism __________________ Maestro http://www.yantremblay.com/

07-31-2008, 02:29 AM	#53
Maestro Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Beaupré, Province of Québec, Canada Posts: 2,381	Sorry for bumping this old thread, but guess what showed up in my browser when I was loging-on to Hotmail... Safe Sex with Hannah Montana? : Dramarama : CelebEdge : Sympatico / MSN So now they want to make her sell condoms ? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for teaching the "mysteries of sexuality and safe sex" to teenagers, but I think the message just won't pass. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't she supposed to still be a virgin and "keeping it for marriage" ? I guess it's all the opposite of selling condoms ! I think they would have better luck with a well known slut like Jenna Jameson. __________________ Maestro http://www.yantremblay.com/

07-31-2008, 09:06 AM	#54
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,827	....or Britney Spears. Didn't I hear somewhere that her mom made the decision to "market" her daughter as a sex-icon, instead of a "dang, she's a good singer"? The second method works slower, yes, and runs the risk of failure if nobody likes the music. The first is faster, and only sacrifices your daughter's self-esteem and self-respect and sanity. __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

08-02-2008, 05:10 AM	#55
Maestro Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Beaupré, Province of Québec, Canada Posts: 2,381	Yep... But it's almost the same case that Cyrus... Spears was "claiming" to be keeping it for marriage... Even if we all suspect she... ...Nevermind. __________________ Maestro http://www.yantremblay.com/ Last edited by Maestro; 08-02-2008 at 09:01 PM.

08-02-2008, 09:28 AM	#57
Aussie1001 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Queensland- Australia Posts: 891	yeah man that was a bit over the top. __________________ 98% Of teens surround their minds with rap. If you're part of the 2% that stayed with rock, put this on your signature I am also one of the 2% who does not own a myspace account.... DEFY THE SYSTEM

08-03-2008, 07:29 AM	#59
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	I guess that some "under the table dealings" must have been done...cr*p music! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

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