Who Killed Kennedy?

[FLYBOYJ]

Yep! Quite Familiar with that photo - if you digitally enhance it you'll find Jackie O's outfit still blood stained.

I think the plot was beyond Johnson, I think he was just told to "shut up or else." There were a gaggle of "pit bulls" within the US Government at that time who were out of control and those are the ones responsible.

I'll throw out another tid-bid. Anyone ever hear of Frank Sturgis? He was a Watergate burglar. He was seen at Dealy Plaza at the time of the shooting talking on a radio. Frank Sturgis was also know as Frank Fiorini. He served in Fidel Castro's revolutionary army and later trained Cuban exiles for the Bay of Pigs Invasion. Coincidence?!?

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I think it went real deep into our own government and what about the Marylin Monroe connection. Both dead....

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I think it went real deep into our own government and what about the Marylin Monroe connection. Both dead....

Yep - especially when newly released tapes from her shrink revealed she had no suicidal tendencies and seemed pretty happy about herself just prior to her death.....

Another snippet......

The 1960 election was one of the closest in US history. Illinois brought JFK over the top and there were rumors of ballot stuffing by Union folks in that state led by Jimmy Hoffa. It was no secret that Hoffa was working for Sam Giancana, the top Chicago mobster at the time who allegedly assisted in this as he cut a deal with old man Joe Kennedy (who I think was the biggest scumbag on the planet, Bobbie Kennedy later double crossed Giancanna and now you have the organized crime angle on the plot). During this period a small time thug, union guy and Dallas night club owner worked heavily on the campaign and ran between his place in Dallas and Chicago - Jack Ruby....

The days after the assassination, Ruby made and received dozens of phone calls from Chicago. Maybe to discuss union business?

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Interesting stuff there. I think the whole thing may never be solved. It goes really deep.

[FLYBOYJ]

Oh - I'll throw some more stuff here evey time I post....

There are autopsy photos that show JFKs face pretty mush in tact. If you saw the x ray (also available) it shows a huge wound off the side of his head and face. You would think half of his face was blown away. If you see those photos and compare them to the Zeupreuder film, you could see the original autopsy photos were clearly doctored.....

The night before the assassination many of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Kennedy showed up to a bar called the Cellar. Amazingly several women showed up to this place and starting mingling with the Secret Service guys, closing the bar and keeping them out super late. It was found out that these girls were "dancers" and further investigation revealed they worked for a guy named "Jack" (Jack Ruby). Ironic that a gaggle of Jack Ruby's strippers happen to show up to the same bar the Secret Service detail is hanging out the night before the assassination?!?!

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Interesting where did you find out this info.

Speaking of interesting info though, I always liked the comparison between Kennedy and Lincoln. That is pretty amazing.

[FLYBOYJ]

Oh yea, posted that on another link - it's almost scary!!!!

Carlos Marchello of New Orleans was the top mobster in the country during the late 1950s and early 1960s. After JFK was elected his attorney general, Bobbie Kennedy went after the mob with a vengeance, why? His father Joe Kennedy, was actually friends with many of them and himself was a huge bootlegger during Prohibition. Now that the Kennedys were in power it seemed convenient to eliminate the dirty help they used to get in office....

Marchello was born in Italy but never had clear citizenship or immigration status. In the 1950s his lawyer made arrangements to show he (Marchello) was a Guatemalan citizen so he could stay in the US as a legal alien. One night Bobbie Kennedy had Marchello picked up at his home, flown to Guatemala City and dropped off there on the tarmack! (the whole time Marchello was in his pajamas!). Marchello swore revenge on the Kenndeys and was heard by several people saying, I'm going to have both of them whacked and blame it on a nut."

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Very interesting stuff. I wonder how much Kennedy was into the mob.

[FLYBOYJ]

His dad was a major bootlegger, real good friends with Joseph Costello, one of the original "New York 5" crime family members.

In the 50s when CIA hits were legal and actually sanctioned, many of the hits were done by mob folks, why waste a trained CIA agent to bump off some 3rd world dictator.

There is no doubt in my mind that old man Joe used his mob connections to get his son elected, after they were used, the double cross began as JFK (with his Dads direction) let Bobbie loose on them.

I honestly think JFK knew he had some out-of-control folks running around in the CIA and that's why he fired CIA Director Alan Dulles after the Bay of Pigs. Another coincidence - Dulles' brother was the Mayor of Dallas, November 1963 and the head of the Dallas Police force (a great position to be in if you were involved in the assassination attempt). Alan Dulles later served on the Warren Commission. That Would of been like Newt Gingrich acting as counsel for Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky trial!!!!

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

That is crazy, that is also what I pretty much thought. You think the family still has ties? I am pretty sure.

[FLYBOYJ]

Oh I think so, why do you think that Turd, Teddy been around so long......

A professional politician for the woking man, just another member of Tammany Hall!

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Your probably right.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Interesting where did you find out this info.

Oh forgot to tell you - a few good books on the subject;

Contract on America

High Treason

Rush to Judgment

Crossfire by Jim Marrs is probably the most compelling book on the subject.

Personally I think Kennedy was a bum, there was this false sense of family portrayed in the White House while he was banging every floozy he could get his hands on, he was portrayed as this great guy but in his presidency he didn't do sh*t, but despite this, for how ever bad he was, no one had the right to kill him.....

[FLYBOYJ]

I know I may be boaring with this thread, but I found this great website for those who want more infomation on this....

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKindex.htm

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

No this is not boring. I just did not know it went that deep into the mob.