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04-29-2005, 10:50 AM
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#1 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Does anyone know anything else about this gun? It seems kinda kick-ass, especially if you can have a combination of anything.. 
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04-29-2005, 10:55 AM
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#2 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | Ah, the planned M-16/M4 replacement! Very modular, eh?
Should be something else, as long as all the kinks are worked out.  | |
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04-29-2005, 10:56 AM
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Country: | YEah it sure as heck sounds great
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04-29-2005, 11:17 AM
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#4 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | Is it just me, or does the accessory "butt cap" sound a little unnerving? 
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04-29-2005, 11:30 AM
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#5 | | He who does not skim
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04-29-2005, 11:54 AM
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05-05-2005, 01:30 PM
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#7 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | From the information that we have recieived on it. It is actually a very good rifle. It has many different configurations and is very light weight, easy to take apart and simple to fix. It does however like any advanced weapons system have some kinks but they will get them worked out. It is currently being tested against other experimental weapons by a team made up of soldiers form different backgrounds i.e. 1 Ranger, 1 Pilot, 1 cook, 1 mechanic, 1 medic....etc. So the soldiers get to decide what is going to be the next standard rifle. I will have to dig up an Army Times News Paper article on the different rifles they are testing and post it here. Very interesting stuff if my wife did not throw it out yet.
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05-05-2005, 01:48 PM
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Country:  | And it's almost a direct copy of the G-36 which will be equipping most European forces by 2008. America just doesn't like having the same so they got H & K USA to develop a seperate model. Both the G-36 and XM-8 are H & K though.
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05-05-2005, 04:38 PM
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#9 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Basically it is, yeah. They've just made it modular and reconfigurable. | |
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05-05-2005, 04:42 PM
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Country: | I like the looks of it. We'll have to see how well it performs though. It should be good, both the M-8 and G-36.
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05-06-2005, 01:59 PM
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#11 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I believe the G-36 is already being used by the German Bundeswehr. If I recall they showed it to us when we visited one of there posts a while back. It is probably just fielded limited right now for trials and tests but I think I have seen it before.
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05-06-2005, 02:52 PM
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| It looks a good weapon, & the fact that the Americans are testing it in this way with all different personnel using it makes perfect common sense.
Shame the europeans didnt think of testing the SA80 in the same way - instead of giving our troops unreliable crap!
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05-06-2005, 02:56 PM
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#13 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It is the best way to test i think, you get a real soldiers opinion.
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05-09-2005, 12:08 PM
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Country: | From what I have read is that the action makes use of M-16 parts. To what extent I don't know other than the bolt is virtually the same. Apparently this similarity is enough that Colt (another manufacturer in this competition) has put a temporary halt on the HK XM-8 until Colts lawsuit is resolved.
The action apprarently makes use of the M-16 action, but with the short stroke piston (AK-47) in lieu of the gas impingement upon the bolt face (M-16). The modular weapon system includes a short carbine, rifle, squad auto, and heavy barrel machine gun.
Other competitors included Robinson Arms, Armalite (apparently with a late submittal), and some others that escape me at the moment. What was most interesting to me is that with the exception of the XM-8, virtually all submittals looked just like an M-16/M-4 with lots of accessory rails hung all over it. Go figure.
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05-09-2005, 12:31 PM
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| THere is also apparently serious discussion about a new cartridge too. The 5.56mm NATO aka the civilian .223 Remington has been the subject of numeroius complaints from frontline soldiers, especially in Afghanastan, over failure to achieve one shot stops with center of mass hits.
Remington, in conjunction with the military has developed the 6.8mm SPC (Special Purpose Cartridge) and is pitching it as a replacement for some, if not all 5.56mm NATO applications.
The new 6.8mm cartridge fires a 115 gr. bullet at approximately 2,750 fps.
The 5.56mm NATO fores a 62gr. bullet at about 3,100 fps.
The new cartridge's dimensions are such that it can operate in the M-16 and related model platforms.
Some of the military brass aren't sold on it. It should be interesting to see if it actually goes into operation.
Left - 6.8 SPC / Right - 5.56 NATO 
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