 | Best Aircraft in many different roles| Old Threads Discuss Best Aircraft in many different roles in the Old Stuff forums; The roles of the P-38 that I can think of are: fighter, night fighter, recon, and ground attack. What ... |
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12-28-2004, 03:08 PM
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#211 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | The roles of the P-38 that I can think of are: fighter, night fighter, recon, and ground attack. What else could it be used for, I may be wrong but I think thats about it. It was extremely great in its roles that it perfomed but I dont think you can do much else with it.
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12-28-2004, 03:21 PM
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#212 | | Master of Ewes
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ok, if either of the external pylons could take the weight of a 4,000lb bomb, it would unbalance the aircraft severely, being able to carry radar is very different to one aircraft being able to carry both british and american radar, the P-38M was cramped enough, it's be one hell of a squeze to get a rear gunner in there, and i'm talking about a 4 gun turrent able to bring it's guns to bear through 360 degrees, and there was no way it could carry H2S or highball, another thing, could the P-38 carry a searchlight??
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12-28-2004, 03:26 PM
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#213 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I am pretty sure it could carry a searchlight, but I dont know if it did or not.
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12-28-2004, 03:52 PM
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| The P-38 flew in all the catagories the Mossie did including level bombing with and without Norden/radar. the big difference was that the SAME P-38 could do all those roles not just a purpose built aircraft like the Mossie.
The Mossie airframe was flexible but individual Mossies were not. With the exception of the pure recon P-38 they, each plane, could do all the things it needed to ie.
Air ambulance
Fighter
Level bombing
Skip bombing
Dive bonbing
Recon
Intercepter
Escort
Tank buster
Night fighter
Provisions/testing was made for these rolls
Skis for snow
Two torpedos
Floats
You can't lump these into smaller catagories because they require different technices and in most aircraft, different set up. The P-38s could do any mixture on any single day with any single aircraft.
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12-28-2004, 03:56 PM
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#215 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by wmaxt .You can't lump these into smaller catagories because they require different technices and in most aircraft, different set up. The P-38s could do any mixture on any single day with any single aircraft. | Good Point. | |
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12-28-2004, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wmaxt .You can't lump these into smaller catagories because they require different technices and in most aircraft, different set up. The P-38s could do any mixture on any single day with any single aircraft. | Good Point. | How do you isolate individual paragraphs in a quote? | |
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12-28-2004, 04:05 PM
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#217 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Aha I just figured out the whole quote thing myself. As for the isolating when you quote something someone has written, just delete everything in the quote that you dont want to have in it.
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12-28-2004, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wmaxt .You can't lump these into smaller catagories because they require different technices and in most aircraft, different set up. The P-38s could do any mixture on any single day with any single aircraft. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by wmaxt .You can't lump these into smaller.....single aircraft. | | |
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12-28-2004, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wmaxt .You can't lump these into smaller.....single aircraft. | |  Duh. | |
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12-28-2004, 05:11 PM
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12-28-2004, 10:06 PM
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Country: | For the Mosquitos roles, put all those minus the skis (Skis for Snow isn't a role..  ) and then add Anti-Shipping. Seeing as the P-38 didn't actually do anti-shipping.
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12-28-2004, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D For the Mosquitos roles, put all those minus the skis (Skis for Snow isn't a role.. ) and then add Anti-Shipping. Seeing as the P-38 didn't actually do anti-shipping. | Yes, it did. It was the only fighter that could carry 2 torpedoes. They attacked axis shipping during the Battle of North Africa just after operation torch. They attacked ships, and air transports. The picture below shows the P-38 with 2 torpedoes. If that isn't anti-shipping, what is?
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12-29-2004, 12:24 AM
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Country: | I already knew it could carry torpedos. Air transports aren't ships...see, keyword 'AIR' . The Mosquito was doing anti-shipping in the Channel, North Sea, Atlantic...it did more Anti-shipping duties than the Lightning. The Lightning was hardly used.
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12-29-2004, 12:35 AM
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#224 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Actually, it was used in North Africa against planes AND ships. It also was used quite a bit in the Pacific. I am not discounting the role the mosquito played, I am just pointing out that the lightning also did perform anti-shipping roles. Torpedoes aren't for AIR shipping, unless you are one hell of a shot!
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12-29-2004, 12:37 AM
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Country: | You might do, like drop it on them. It'd be an interesting kill. The Lightnings did do some anti-shipping but compared to the Mosquito, they did little.
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