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MP-Willow · 12-06-2004, 06:06 PM

Th Me-410 was very good, but was later and lost in politics as did some of the relly good Geran designs. It is said that we cannot discuss more topics as well as P-38 vs. Mossie

Now what about a PBY in this catagory? It was a patrol plane, rescue, transport, bomber, night fighter!

cheddar cheese · 12-07-2004, 01:04 PM

Which PBY?

the lancaster kicks ass · 12-07-2004, 02:05 PM

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It was a patrol plane, rescue, transport, bomber, night fighter

as was the sunderland..............

cheddar cheese · 12-07-2004, 04:32 PM

Sunderlands are great planes...

wmaxt · 12-07-2004, 06:09 PM

The P-38L must be in the running with close to a 1,000mi radius 2,000lbs bomb load 1-300gal drop tank 1-2,000lb bomd. Over 1,000mi radiue with 2-300gal drop tanks and rockets. (this is an unusual configuration because it was outside the official max takeoff weight specifications).

Consider the B-25
Long range guided bomb missions to the China sea in the last year of the war. 75mm cannon equiped. models with up to 14 foward firing .50 cal machinguns. Skip bombing. The only plane to fight in Every front in WWII including Russia. Not to mention taking off from an aircraft carrier when it was required.

wmaxt · 12-07-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

they're not different enough to have to change the aircraft to do them.....................

If the plane is a P-38!

the lancaster kicks ass · 12-08-2004, 02:38 PM

no i mean the roles were so similar that you wouldn't have to make adjustments to the aircraft in order for it to do each role.............

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The P-38L must be in the running with close to a 1,000mi radius 2,000lbs bomb load 1-300gal drop tank 1-2,000lb bomd. Over 1,000mi radiue with 2-300gal drop tanks and rockets

may i suggest you read up on the De Haviland Mosquito, same marks could carry a 5,000lb payload up to 1,400+ miles, in comparison the P38J (i think) could carry a 3,200lb payload 450 miles...................

cheddar cheese · 12-08-2004, 03:41 PM

The thing with the Mossie was that it was a **** Fighter, so once its bombs were dropped there was every chance it could get jumped by 190's and shot down.

wmaxt · 12-08-2004, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

no i mean the roles were so similar that you wouldn't have to make adjustments to the aircraft in order for it to do each role.............

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The P-38L must be in the running with close to a 1,000mi radius 2,000lbs bomb load 1-300gal drop tank 1-2,000lb bomd. Over 1,000mi radiue with 2-300gal drop tanks and rockets

may i suggest you read up on the De Haviland Mosquito, same marks could carry a 5,000lb payload up to 1,400+ miles, in comparison the P38J (i think) could carry a 3,200lb payload 450 miles...................

The P-38L was rated at 4,000lbs for 450 mi radius I have seen reports that 5,000lbs and the same fuel was done in war time situations - Martin Caiden. but the main point is that the next day the very same plane went out on an escort mission.

lesofprimus · 12-09-2004, 01:24 AM

Everyone is forgetting the Fw-190... That plane did almost anything, and did it exceptionally well..... They even slung torpedos underneath em.....

cheddar cheese · 12-09-2004, 12:13 PM

I didnt think that had the capacitiy to carry a torp?

Hot Space · 12-09-2004, 12:40 PM

No, but it was used for trails of the German Version of barnes Wallis's Dambuster Bomb though.

Hot Space

lesofprimus · 12-09-2004, 08:20 PM

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I didnt think that had the capacitiy to carry a torp?

Yes there was a couple of variants of the -190 that were designed to carry a torpedo...

The Fw-190A-5/U14, carrying a LT F5b torpedo on ETC-502 rack...
The Fw-190A-5/U15, carrying a LT 950 torpedo.....
The Fw-190F-8/U2, carrying a BT 700 torpedo bomb.....
The Fw-190F-8/U3, carrying a BT 1400 torpedo bomb....

GermansRGeniuses · 12-11-2004, 04:08 AM

No idea about the designation, when I got it said it was an Fw-190A5-45...

Hot Space · 12-11-2004, 08:38 AM

I would hate to try and fly that thing

Hot Space

12-06-2004, 06:06 PM	#61
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12-07-2004, 01:04 PM	#62
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Which PBY?

12-07-2004, 04:32 PM	#64
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Sunderlands are great planes...

12-07-2004, 06:09 PM	#65
wmaxt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,175	The P-38L must be in the running with close to a 1,000mi radius 2,000lbs bomb load 1-300gal drop tank 1-2,000lb bomd. Over 1,000mi radiue with 2-300gal drop tanks and rockets. (this is an unusual configuration because it was outside the official max takeoff weight specifications). Consider the B-25 Long range guided bomb missions to the China sea in the last year of the war. 75mm cannon equiped. models with up to 14 foward firing .50 cal machinguns. Skip bombing. The only plane to fight in Every front in WWII including Russia. Not to mention taking off from an aircraft carrier when it was required.

12-08-2004, 03:41 PM	#68
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	The thing with the Mossie was that it was a **** Fighter, so once its bombs were dropped there was every chance it could get jumped by 190's and shot down.

12-09-2004, 12:13 PM	#71
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	I didnt think that had the capacitiy to carry a torp?

12-09-2004, 12:40 PM	#72
Hot Space Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,172	No, but it was used for trails of the German Version of barnes Wallis's Dambuster Bomb though. Hot Space

12-11-2004, 08:38 AM	#75
Hot Space Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,172	I would hate to try and fly that thing Hot Space