 | Best Fighter| Old Threads Discuss Best Fighter in the Old Stuff forums; I have the records showing G-10's and G-6/AS doing 480 plus in a flat out against ... |
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05-20-2004, 01:42 PM
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#31 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | I have the records showing G-10's and G-6/AS doing 480 plus in a flat out against the Mossie LSNF. The K-4 never proved it's worth as there were so few of them in JG 27, 51 and 4 plus a few other JG's that kept G-10's on hand. The G-10 and a few K-4's were used in the nigiht time role with I./NJG 11 by the way.
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05-20-2004, 02:06 PM
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#32 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country:  | i doubt a 109 could do 480 
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05-20-2004, 02:12 PM
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#33 | | the old Sage
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Country: | CC it will be in our Nachtjagd book "Nasty Surprise, Moskito-jagd over Deutschland" which will cover the Bf 109G's of 10.(N)/JG 300 later II./NJG 11 and the Me 262's of Kommando Welter. many first person accounts and personal friends with two of the living pilots...........this is seperate from my Ju 88G-6 book. The Moskito-jagd is the development of some 35 years of research on my part and we have gone to some extremems finding the proper documentation and vets to be interviewed both RAF, US and German...........
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05-20-2004, 02:17 PM
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#34 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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05-20-2004, 02:25 PM
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#35 | | the old Sage
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Country: | CC I have researched / helped on over 10 different books. The last one on German night fighter losses and helping a German author friend for his German Luftwaffe ground attack book. Am also working on my personal interviews of German crews for the March 45 mission Unternehmen Gislea where Ju 88G's attacked English airfields with a dangerous fly back home/ intruder mission. you're maybe aware of the mission ?
Submitted German day fighter claims and losses for a book being prepared by the 445th bomb group-US, mission over Kassel on 27 September 1944 where the 445th bg lost over 30 B-24's to the three Sturmgruppen operating the heavy Fw 190A-8. Two more books in the works besides my own two personal ones I have made statements about........
One of the problems I suffer is Carperal tunnel in both my wrists so this keeps me from writing long paragraphs without extreme pain, so I leave the completed works to fine authors and help with research.
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05-20-2004, 02:27 PM
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#36 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | you still havent's actually given us your opinion yet Erich, which do you think looked better, and don't say "which varient" or anything like that..............
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05-20-2004, 02:30 PM
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#37 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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05-20-2004, 02:46 PM
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#38 | | the old Sage
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Country: | looked better ? ! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks, well I sure like the looks of the P-51 but also the Schwalbe, Me 262 and the Ta 152. The Fw 190A-8/R8 with the heavy sturm armor just looks plain mean and was as a bomber killer, it's primary function.
let you guys on a little secret though, we are going to be having some wonderful stuff covering the unknown Me 262B-2 night fighter in our Moskito-jagd book. the Jg 7 author Manfred Boehme is allowing us access to his incredible photo/drawing archiv and we will cover this unproven variant at length, since the futuristic a/c was to be ready for ops in the winter of 1946 had the war continued..........
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05-20-2004, 02:59 PM
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#39 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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One of the problems I suffer is Carperal tunnel in both my wrists so this keeps me from writing long paragraphs without extreme pain, so I leave the completed works to fine authors and help with research.
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sorry mate, didnt see that  you ok with typing though by the looks of things?
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05-20-2004, 03:02 PM
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#40 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I try my best by typing really slow but most of the time my typing is just plain horrible !
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05-20-2004, 03:07 PM
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#41 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | too bad  just put short posts like me and the lanc do, if it helps
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05-20-2004, 04:24 PM
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#42 | | the old Sage
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Country: | a little something translated from the Deutsch by friend and web-master Neil Page off our web-site:
For the Ta 152H http://members.aol.com/falkeeins/Stu...chkeJG301.html | |
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05-20-2004, 10:41 PM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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| I've never seen a G-10 listed that high on speed. What was powering it?
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05-20-2004, 11:51 PM
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#44 | | the old Sage
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Country: | insert foot in mouth................ 
have had time this early evening to check through the German documentation, the speed for the G-6/AS and G-10's were around 430mph. quite a difference I would say. the G-10 also had the MW 50 boost and AS type engine and the a/c at times were buffed out with the rivets puttied over. also to increase speed of the Moskito-jagd the oil was specially thinned during the day as the pilots slept. the machines were just up for a short period of time flying higher than the Mossie bombers with hope of catching them by diving and pulling up behind the last moment....... | |
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05-21-2004, 07:25 AM
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#45 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Fw-190A-8/R8 needed its own escort, didn't it? I read that the armament was so high, and the battle weight was so high the plane didn't have a chance in air to air combat until it got rid of its load.
And with that, the Fw-190 (Of any variant) looks better than the 109, the 109 has character but the 190 is just a better looking plane. C.C, you're the minority, again. 
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