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05-21-2004, 10:56 PM
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| How much success did the Luftwaffe have with these single seat night fighters?
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05-22-2004, 08:41 AM
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#62 | | the old Sage
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Country: | very much hit and miss. It appears that only the faster versions of the Bf 109G could catch the Mossie LSNF until in 1945 when Kommando Welter used the Me 262A-1a, but even then determining which of the 8 routes the LSNF was to take twoards Berlin and retreating back to England. |
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05-22-2004, 10:41 AM
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Country: | So the RAF had a distinct advantage at night, through most of the war?
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05-22-2004, 10:55 AM
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| I don't know if I would say they had a distinct advantage. From what I have read the electronic war at night was very much back and forth. For example, Window limited the effectiveness of German radar so the Germans developed radar transmitting on less-effected frequincies and devices to home on H2S and Monica. Then the British started using these devices less. What ultimately made bombers a safer place to live was the invasion pushing the German radar stations and fighter bases further and further back.
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05-22-2004, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Erich how about FuG 217 on an Fw 190A ? have seen something like this before ? | Wilde Sau, ja? Anyway, that means "Wild Boar" if I remember correctly.
From what little I have read about it, no, it was not too successful. |
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05-22-2004, 11:51 AM
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#66 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I have more images I will share a bit later. Actually Wilde Sau was successful and needed as the Window and jamming during July of 43 countered any existing German airborne radar units. so a Frei-jagd (free-hunt) was to be the norm and not just for the single engine fighters of JG's 300-302. Twin engine NJG's though arrayed with the aerials used the crewmen's eyes and followed searchlight lanes to attack RAF bombers.
The problem with the Wilde Sau single engine pilots is that the fighters were not a good propositon to land by at night and most of the fatalities involved taking off, landing and engine failures leading to death.........
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05-22-2004, 12:13 PM
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#67 | | the old Sage
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Fritz Krause of 1./NJGr 10 and his Neptun FuG 217J-1 equipped Fw 190A-6. Weiße 11.
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05-22-2004, 12:36 PM
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#68 | | Master of Ewes
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Fritz Krause of 1./NJGr 10 and his Neptun FuG 217J-1 equipped Fw 190A-6. Weiße 11.
| well i could have told you that  .................
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05-22-2004, 03:38 PM
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#69 | | the old Sage
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Country: | told me what ? do you know Fritz as he is still alive ? and do you have detailed information on the FuG 217 and 218 radar set ups used by single engine nf's of the Luftwaffe.......... ?
curious to your statement lanc
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05-22-2004, 04:05 PM
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#70 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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I believe lanc was being 'ironic'.
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05-22-2004, 04:08 PM
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#71 | | the old Sage
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Country: | ?????????????? ok I am lost ................ must be English humor ?  |
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05-23-2004, 06:12 AM
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#72 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes, it's english humour, you'll learn not to take everything i say seriously soon enough..............
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05-23-2004, 09:15 AM
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#73 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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05-23-2004, 01:30 PM
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#74 | | Master of Ewes
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05-24-2004, 09:56 AM
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Country: | yup, the lanc isnt serious about anything, so dont believe a word of it 
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