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True, and if the wave doesn't get you, the gasses thrown up by a super eruption could cause a nuclear winter effect and you could either starve or freeze to death.Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
Mother Nature can be such a party pooper at times
If in doubt........Panic!!!!!!!
Ummm... it is going to happen. It is only a question of when, not if.
http://www.rense.com/general13/tidal.htm
You can search on "Canary Islands Tsunami" and find numerous information about this future event. It has happened before, there are 100 ton flung up from the ocean sitting on isles in the Bahamas to prove it. The very shape of those Islands, which are like arrows pointing East, was made by the last such wave.
A similar wave was generated when one of the Hawain Islands experianced a similar though larger event a few hundred thousand years back, which is the primary explanation for its very odd flora and fauna, most species were wiped out completely.
If you live on the East coast, you should be paying attention for any signs of activity of the Cumbre Vieja Volcano on the Island of La Palma in the Canary Islands. If so, pack up the family and your valuables and head West!
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Never!!! I was born an east coaster, and I'll die...Awww, who am I kidding?! I'm outta here!
As I said Mother Nature is very unforgiving. It is as if she is trying out her own population control or just damn tired of us screwing up her environment.
fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
U happy and convinced now GrG???
No.
I honestly can't see that happening.
If it happened before, why are the Caribbean Islands and Florida, not to mention all those other states and Africa still there?
Sure, you could say those dents along Africa's seaboard were caused by a past tsunami, but I truly doubt that a wave could reform a continent in a single blow.
Like I said, NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.
Actually, the intial wave if the west slope of La Palma were to slide into the ocean would be about 650 meters in height. It would taper off to about 30-50 meters by the time it reached mid ocean, then it would rise up to over 100 meters as it came onshore on the coast of Florida.
It's pretty damn amazing. Fortunately, such events only happen once every few thousand years.
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Umm, don't you think the better question to ask is what explains the odd shape of that region? How else do you explain the presence of boulders weighing thousands of tons which are obviously from the ocean floor (this is easily determined) sitting atop various atolls of the Bahamas? You don't seriously think that such a wave would completely wash away major land masses do you?
Wake up m8. It is going to happen. Each time the volano(s) on La Palma errupt there is an increasing chance the west slope will give way. There is a major erruption every 150-200 years, but it's unpredictable. The last such erruption was back in about 1950 if I recall correctly. So another erruption could occur at any time, but probably won't happen till near the end of the century or maybe early into the next.
I'm not saying you should run for the hills, just pointing out that these kind of things are certainly possible. If you live on the E. Coast of the USA or Florida or the Bahamas, it would be prudent to get out of there if you hear that a Canary Island volcano has started to errupt. That's about the extent of it.
There are several such volcanic islands that are threatening to collapse, the one on La Palma just happens to be the one most likely to do so next. There are also similar structures under the ocean, which are generally not mapped, which could give way at any time, but unless it is truely huge these would generate smaller, though still catastrophic, tsunamis.
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True, and if the wave doesn't get you, the gasses thrown up by a super eruption could cause a nuclear winter effect and you could either starve or freeze to death.
Mother Nature can be such a party pooper at times
And how would nuclear winter come about?
What gases are in a volcano that have radioactive tendencies?
Umm, don't you think the better question to ask is what explains the odd shape of that region? How else do you explain the presence of boulders weighing thousands of tons which are obviously from the ocean floor (this is easily determined) sitting atop various atolls of the Bahamas? You don't seriously think that such a wave would completely wash away major land masses do you?
Wake up m8. It is going to happen. Each time the volano(s) on La Palma errupt there is an increasing chance the west slope will give way. There is a major erruption every 150-200 years, but it's unpredictable. The last such erruption was back in about 1950 if I recall correctly. So another erruption could occur at any time, but probably won't happen till near the end of the century or maybe early into the next.
I'm not saying you should run for the hills, just pointing out that these kind of things are certainly possible. If you live on the E. Coast of the USA or Florida or the Bahamas, it would be prudent to get out of there if you hear that a Canary Island volcano has started to errupt. That's about the extent of it.
There are several such volcanic islands that are threatening to collapse, the one on La Palma just happens to be the one most likely to do so next. There are also similar structures under the ocean, which are generally not mapped, which could give way at any time, but unless it is truely huge these would generate smaller, though still catastrophic, tsunamis.
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I know major eruptions are fairly common in the larger scheme of things (the 150-200 years, like you said), but why would this one be so different?
I have an idea that won't materialize due to the fact that no one would listen and that it's almost a sure improbability, even if someone did...
We should make a concrete wall all around the island and drain it (for the tunnellers, or else leave it full for submarines), similar to a building tower foundation or "anchor" for oil rig posts (the 60-something feet tall concrete thingos at the ocean floor, where the metal towers that lead to the platform connect; they're like feet, but I don't know the technical name)...
After this, we convert some submarines into automated drilling machines, (perhaps even taking out fuel tanks, leaving only engines, drilling bit and motor, and ballast compartments, among other simples - connect it with a fuel line, like an astronaut is connected to a shuttle through the oxygen tube - note that with a nuclear sub, this would not be required, but the chance of an explosion is too large for this type of work) or use those tunnel drillers to make a large hole in the side, causing the magma to jet out, being stopped partially or completely (depending on thickness of wall and power of volcano), creating a foundation that could be drained out and filled to make an artificial island to relocate the islanders.
Sure, there isn't the natural of the island, but then again, there wouldn't be after a natural eruption, now would there be?
Impossible?
Perhaps!
Is the volcano more likely to erupt than for this insanity to materialize, rendering me wrong as well as speechless?
Undoobitably!
Ahh, my insanity is back and I love it!
Sure, the hole being drilled might cause the island to implode, but the machines would be automatons, and the island (and African coast, at least for a mile; just temporarily move the cities inland in case the wall doesn't help) would be evacuated!
*EDIT*~And there would be as little workers as humanly possible, don't want ANY crowding...
I dare anyone to try to dream anything so insane!
Man, I'm gonna be a great aircraft engineer/designer with ideas so impossibly crazy, so long as I have the means to make them a reality...
I agree it is going to happen some time
fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
What is different about this particular volcano is that it is the core of a small (several trillions of tons of rock above water) island, and the nature of the rock is such that the volcano has formed a series of containers which store water in vertical collums around the core.
Because of this, when it errupts the magma comming up the center of the core heats the water between the collumns (formed from magma from previous erruptions) which creates huge pressures to the side. The steepness of the volcanic mountain and its geological structure make the whole west 1/3rd-1/2 of the island unstable and eventually it will slide off into the sea. Odds are this will be a few thousand years from now, but it could be next week. We just don't know.
I'm not sure how feasable a plan to relieve the water pressure is, but I'd think such an idea would be at least worth exploring.
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I am sure there are people already doing so.
fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
But none with an idea so insane as mine...
Don't question the insanity, just embrace it.
Question it? Why would I question it? I have to live with it
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