 | Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I| Old Threads Discuss Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I in the Old Stuff forums; The Germans probably would have used the same tactics they used with the Wfr. Gr. 21 rockets with conventional Bf-... |
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06-06-2004, 11:25 PM
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#196 | | Senior Member
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| The Germans probably would have used the same tactics they used with the Wfr. Gr. 21 rockets with conventional Bf-109s and Fw-190s covering the dedicated bomber-destroyers. The complication with the X-4 was that the launching plane wasn't free to maneuver immediately after launch.
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06-07-2004, 05:53 PM
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#197 | | the old Sage
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Country: | slightly OT but it is the same for the He 111, Ju 290 and Dornier, He 117 bomber crews, as the radio guided air to ground bombs were sent against shipping the German a/c had to stay on a stragiht course so the operator could watch the drop of the bomb/missile to its target guided with a joystick. any German bomber deviation would of course send the projectile off course. Same applies with the X-4. |
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06-07-2004, 11:11 PM
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| I think they German air-to-ground missles were slightly better because they were radio-controlled. As I understand it, the plane could take limited evasive action as long as the operator could still see the missle.
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06-08-2004, 08:26 AM
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#199 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | surely as long as the person guiding the missile could still see and control the missile the plane could move freely, as the missile's moving independently of the plane...................
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06-08-2004, 12:05 PM
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| That's what I am thinking. Radio control gave more tactical flexibility that wire guidance althought a wire-guided missle couldn't be jammed.
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06-08-2004, 01:15 PM
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#201 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | it would have been very difficult to fly both in a straight line however..............
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06-08-2004, 11:22 PM
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| Did you notice the aircraft Erich mentioned from launching these missles? He 111, Ju 290, Do 17, He 177. Everyone of these planes features several crewmen so it is not that difficult to have one fly the plane and one fly the missle.
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06-09-2004, 12:52 PM
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#203 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | sorry, i thought they were launched from fighters, my mistake...................
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06-09-2004, 04:59 PM
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Country: | and those planes should really have had to worry about taking evasive, normally i think they would have had fighter escort?
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06-09-2004, 11:21 PM
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#205 | | the old Sage
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Country: | surprisingly not as the heavy twin engines were involved with anti-shipping strikes, the Bf 110's and Ju 88's were involved in Allied bomber killing or ground strafing and bombing.
The anti ship killer's were pretty much on their own.............no thanks !
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06-09-2004, 11:27 PM
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| Well they had some success. The Italian ship Roma was sunk by a guided missle as it was heading south to surrender.
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06-10-2004, 03:51 PM
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| And that was a BATTLESHIP (yes, I know it's Italian, but some of their equipment was well built but very vulnerable;e.g.~navy at Taranto).
The missle was a Fritz X, by the way. |
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06-10-2004, 03:54 PM
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| ....And there were two missles. http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/28...x/fritzxn2.jpg
That's what remained of the ship.
One more thing, Fritz X wasn't a missle, it was a guided glide bomb. The impression that it was a missle might come from the flares used for guiding the missle look a bit like exhaust flames when used. |
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06-11-2004, 01:22 PM
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#209 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | didn't the americans use the first RADAR guided bomb in the PTO against jap shipping??
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06-12-2004, 11:43 PM
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| The Americans used a weapon named BAT but I am not very familiar with it. I believe it was used on PB4Y2 Privateers. Here are a couple of pics.
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