 | Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I| Old Threads Discuss Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I in the Old Stuff forums; It's the name. Like Sturmovik is the name, but Flying Tank and Concrete Plane were the nicknames.... |
|
07-27-2004, 02:26 PM
|
#286 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country:  | It's the name. Like Sturmovik is the name, but Flying Tank and Concrete Plane were the nicknames.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. | 
| | |
07-27-2004, 02:31 PM
|
#287 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: | "stuka" is shortened from some really long german word for dive-bomer, it's not a nickname.........................
__________________ 
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 02:35 PM
|
#288 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 108
| "Stuka" is a nickname. As I'm sure you know, it's an abbreviation of the German word for divebomber. Try "stuka" and "nickname" in google: http://tinyurl.com/3k5um
The fact that the Ju87 was nicknamed, essentially, "The Divebomber", was kinda of cool, I reckon. | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 02:45 PM
|
#289 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: | that's still an abreviation, not a nickname..................
__________________
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 02:50 PM
|
#290 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | And The Divebomber is a crap name.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 02:51 PM
|
#291 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 108
| Did you click on the link? It's a nickname, okay?
Anyway, it's hardly relevant, Sorry I swallowed the bait about the nickame stuff... On to better things... | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 03:30 PM
|
#292 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 76
| Stuka - Sturmkampf flieger
And Ilyushin Il-2 Sturmovik was tough plane, but easy to shot down as it had only its armour for "defence". An improved version Il-2m3 equipped with 12,7mm machinegun and a rear gunner was in my opinion the best assault aircraft. | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 03:43 PM
|
#293 | | the old Sage
Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere
Posts: 9,522
Country:  | Ju 87G-1 Stuka, nick name (Kanonvögel) or a/c armed with the long rods...........
wait for Martin Peggs reference on this a/c..........Ju 87 from Classic pubs somewhere in the future. should be like his epic Hs 129 book thick and wonderful, a good read and must have ! | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 03:49 PM
|
#294 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 76
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by Erich Ju 87G-1 Stuka, nick name (Kanonvögel) or a/c armed with the long rods | These 37mm guns were really deadly. Hans Ulrich Rudel scored about 400 (?) tanks using them. | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 03:55 PM
|
#295 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 108
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by Erich ...wait for Martin Peggs reference on this a/c..........Ju 87 from Classic pubs somewhere in the future. should be like his epic Hs 129 book thick and wonderful, a good read and must have ! | And I'd buy that. It's really hard to find a good book about the Stuka for its whole career. There are books about squadrons, and Rudel's book of course, but apart from that... | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 04:10 PM
|
#296 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | This Martin Peggs, has he done many books? Or just one on the Hs-129?
Those 37mm cannons were deadly, thing being the Sturmovik had the same calibre cannons. The Hurricane IIC, IID or IV had two 40mm cannon.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 04:17 PM
|
#297 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 108
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D ... Those 37mm cannons were deadly, thing being the Sturmovik had the same calibre cannons... | Some of them did, but not many. The majority of Il-2s had twin 20mms. | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 04:36 PM
|
#298 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 76
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by dead parrot The majority of Il-2s had twin 20mms. | And 23mm as well. | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 04:49 PM
|
#299 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 108
| Yeah, thanks for the correction. 23mm was the standard.... | |
| | |
07-27-2004, 05:26 PM
|
#300 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | 23mm cannons could rip open almost any kind of Panzer, so the ones without the 37mm cannons would have been alright in combat anyway. Plus the fact those with just the 23mm most likely had rockets and bombs.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. | |
| | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:01 AM. | | |
