 | Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I| Old Threads Discuss Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I in the Old Stuff forums; You're right, yes. It was two F-5 Lightnings and a PR. Mosquito in July 1944, at some point.... |
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12-26-2004, 09:53 PM
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Country:  | You're right, yes. It was two F-5 Lightnings and a PR. Mosquito in July 1944, at some point.
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12-27-2004, 12:47 AM
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| I'm not aware of any encounters between a P-38 and a Me-262 (though I have flown some simulated encounters). The P-38 was credited with the first kill over a Me-163. But I believe by the time the 262 could be encountered with any regularity the P-38 was mostly relegated to shooting up the Wermacht and note escorting heavies.
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12-27-2004, 04:05 PM
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Country: | I flew against -262s in a P-38 on Il-2 FB - it was certainly interesting combat.
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12-27-2004, 06:56 PM
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#649 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | the Me 262 encounters are all covered in earlier threads pertaining to the Schwalbe. how about we get back on topic shall we ? | |
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12-27-2004, 07:09 PM
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Country: | The topic that everyone accepts the Il-2M was the best Tank Killer aircraft of the war in ability but personal preferances swing to the Ju-87G in some?
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12-27-2004, 07:11 PM
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#651 | | the old Sage
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Country: | really ?
NSG Ju 87's used in the night role agasint WEstern Allied forces | |
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12-27-2004, 07:26 PM
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Country: | In percentage terms the Il-2s did lose a lot more but the Il-2 performance wise was better and did kill more.
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12-27-2004, 07:32 PM
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#653 | | the old Sage
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Country: | killed more ? doubtful when you count all the Stuka Panzer aces as well as all the different Stuka variants in service. | |
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12-27-2004, 08:26 PM
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| I prefer the Tiffy and stand by it! | |
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12-27-2004, 08:28 PM
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Country: | I'm talking about the Ju-87G variant alone, as the others were not tank killers - they were dive bombers.
I personally like the Tiffy better too, but it wasn't the best tank killer.
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12-27-2004, 08:30 PM
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| Actually, I know it wasn't, but I think that it had the capability and potential to be, if it had HVARS equipped or larger cannons... | |
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12-27-2004, 08:34 PM
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#657 | | the old Sage
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Country: | a couple of things. SG 1 and 3 and 77 during 43-45 do not have written histories so we will never know right at present was their 10th Panzerstafflen actually shot up.
neither a concise history as far as I am aware of all Il-2 units. in any case the Il-2 did cause havoc as experienced by a good friend of mine, now deceased but it did no damage to the Stugs of the Stug Abteilung 1 under his own admission. It appears like many so-called tank busters the Il-2 and Tiffy did cause many MT casualties but did not in effect destroy armor in the "claimed" amounts..... | |
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12-28-2004, 02:16 PM
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Country: | i also like the tiffy, a fine aircraft................
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12-28-2004, 02:20 PM
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Country: | the broken backed NSGr Ju 87D-5's in the above photo fired rounds such as these............ 2cm hard cores which did tremendous damage | |
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12-28-2004, 10:03 PM
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Country: | Did no damage to StuGs? Which StuGs, are we talking StuGIII 'cos they'd be ripped apart from the air. .50 cals could tear them open for on high.
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