 | Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I| Old Threads Discuss Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I in the Old Stuff forums; The StuGIII, as the SPG on its own, could actually be ripped open by .50 cals - like a cheap tin ... |
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12-30-2004, 08:35 AM
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Country: | The StuGIII, as the SPG on its own, could actually be ripped open by .50 cals - like a cheap tin can, I may add. They did stick trees, sandbags - ANYTHING on but I'm refering to the mere 11mm of armour they were built with.
The Finnish were the best at camoflauging and uparmouring their tanks with natural resources in the field. Sometimes you can't even tell what it is because of all the trees attached to it.
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12-30-2004, 02:17 PM
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| Mr. Erich:
I have no option but to join the people in thanking you for posting such interesting photos.
Do you happen to know the name of the man standing by the big bomb?
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12-30-2004, 02:43 PM
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Country: | no I do not unfortunately ............ wish I did. the cahp up by the Ju was radio operator of that particular a/c and crewed with a Staffel Kommanduer in 3rd staffel. I have another pic somewhere showing the armor details of the D variant of the cockpit..........very nice
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12-30-2004, 02:57 PM
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#679 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | that's a great shot of the stuka..................
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12-30-2004, 03:17 PM
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#680 | | the old Sage
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Country: | the armor details of the Ju 87 cockpit are hiding somewhere in the stack
ok here is a little something from SG 77............ ooooops  |
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12-30-2004, 06:57 PM
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#681 | | the old Sage
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Country: | Plan d
the Stug 1 Abteilung was helped by many 2cm and 3.7cm Fla weapons.....
look familiar to you ? |
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12-31-2004, 07:34 AM
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Country: | Yes, of course.
I'm not saying it was EASY to get down to the StuGs. Also, they weren't easy to targets to hit - very low and more than likely well concealed. I'm just saying their armour protection alone wasn't going to stop .50cals. Especially if a P-47 dived down on them.
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12-31-2004, 12:16 PM
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#683 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I don't want to get a land war discussion going on this thread but I am talking about towards the end of the war not Normandie. heavy wood beams, snadbags and anything to break up the square look of the stug was used. During the spring of 45 the 1st Stug Abt was used to block up holes-gaps made by soviet armor so it was camo'd the best way possible in the terrain it was engaged. here's a pic of Soviet tank killer; RK winner Walter Kuhn in his stug III. |
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01-03-2005, 10:30 AM
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| Rockets vs. AT guns? I'd prefer rockets. They seem to be more simple to use plus they give fighters the ability to destroy tanks without taking out much from their agility. |
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01-03-2005, 11:10 AM
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Country: | The Il-2 had rockets and cannons. So, unload the rockets then you've still got some punch against the rest in the cannons.
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01-03-2005, 01:49 PM
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Country: | and even 20mm work fine against "soft" targets.............
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01-03-2005, 02:31 PM
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Country: | Ill just have Cannons. LOTS of big cannons 
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01-03-2005, 02:44 PM
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| Also the Bf110s (late) carried rockets as well as their heavy nose armament configuration in the eastern front.
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01-03-2005, 02:53 PM
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Country: | Bf-110's could have some mean ol' cannon arrangements...
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01-03-2005, 03:20 PM
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| The cannons would typically prove to me more accurate and more reliable than rockets as well.
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