 | Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I| Old Threads Discuss Best tank killer aircraft of WW2 Part I in the Old Stuff forums; Mosquito FB. XVIII "Tse-Tse" Named Tse-Tse Fly because it had more bite than a normal Mosquito. ... |
|
01-04-2005, 02:00 AM
|
#706 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country:  | 
Mosquito FB. XVIII "Tse-Tse" Named Tse-Tse Fly because it had more bite than a normal Mosquito. 6 pdr (57mm) Molins cannon with 25 rounds.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. | 
| | |
01-04-2005, 08:29 AM
|
#707 | | Konfused with a 'K'
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Turin, Italy
Posts: 20,412
Country:  | I prefer the BK 7,5 75mm cannon on the Hs-129B-2...
__________________  with my one last gaping breath id apologise for bleeding on your shirt... | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 09:08 AM
|
#708 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | I like that too but only 25 were built, weren't they?
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 09:16 AM
|
#709 | | Konfused with a 'K'
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Turin, Italy
Posts: 20,412
Country: | I dont know the exact number, but it certainly wasnt many.
__________________ with my one last gaping breath id apologise for bleeding on your shirt... | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 09:26 AM
|
#710 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | I read they had some success in their short career. One hit from that 75mm would rip any tank apart, from the top. Same calibre as a Sherman M4
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 09:49 AM
|
#711 | | Konfused with a 'K'
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Turin, Italy
Posts: 20,412
Country: | It was the plane that was bad rather than the gun. The cockpit was too cramped and the engines were unreliable. Wasnt too fast either...
__________________ with my one last gaping breath id apologise for bleeding on your shirt... | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 01:06 PM
|
#712 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: | a 6pdr could ged rid of allot of things though..............
__________________ 
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 01:11 PM
|
#713 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,512
| The USAAF drew up design specs for a version of the P-38 equipped with a 75mm gun that even Kelly Johnson wasn't aware of. The modification involved moving the cockpit forward to what was normally the armament section while the 75mm gun ran beneath the cockpit floor with the auto-loader sittting in the spot that had been the cockpit. 21 rounds were carried along with 300rpg for 2 .50cal mgs bracketing the cannon.
__________________  | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 01:18 PM
|
#714 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: | the .50cal would proberly have been used to sight the 75mm................
__________________
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 01:21 PM
|
#715 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,512
| That was the primary mission, but they also allowed the fighter to have some measure of self-defense as the 75mm weapon would have been useless in air-to-air combat.
__________________ | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 01:22 PM
|
#716 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: | but 300rpg wouldn't last long at all................
__________________
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 01:24 PM
|
#717 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,512
| 24 secs. That would be comparable to the ammo supply on most marks of the Spit.
__________________ | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 01:30 PM
|
#718 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: | wow didn't think it'd last that long, mind you i'm normally thinking about the .303...............
__________________
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 02:09 PM
|
#719 | | Konfused with a 'K'
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Turin, Italy
Posts: 20,412
Country: | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Lightning Guy The USAAF drew up design specs for a version of the P-38 equipped with a 75mm gun that even Kelly Johnson wasn't aware of. The modification involved moving the cockpit forward to what was normally the armament section while the 75mm gun ran beneath the cockpit floor with the auto-loader sittting in the spot that had been the cockpit. 21 rounds were carried along with 300rpg for 2 .50cal mgs bracketing the cannon. | Woah, even I didnt know about that! 
__________________ with my one last gaping breath id apologise for bleeding on your shirt... | |
| | |
01-04-2005, 04:14 PM
|
#720 | | Der Crewchief
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 30,293
Country:  | Yeah I did not know that until now either, that is really interesting. I have found some info on it though since reading this last post. It was called the XP-58 Chain Lightning. Quote:
The XP-58 was the largest version of the series of aircraft based on the P-38 and continued with the XP-49. The "Chain Lightning" was initially designed as a long-range bomber escort, but was redesigned as a low-altitude ground attack aircraft and finally retro-designed back to a bomber escort/attack aircraft. Besides the many role changes, the XP-58 was plagued by engine, armament and crew changes. In the final configuration, the aircraft had two crewmen; a pilot and a rear-gunner operating two power turrets although the turrets and the forward firing armament was never actually installed. Engine and supercharger problems caused the project to be canceled after one aircraft was built.
TYPE
XP-58 Number built/Converted
1 Remarks
Larger version of P-38
SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 70 ft. 0 in.
Length: 49 ft. 3 in.
Height: 16 ft. 0 in.
Weight: 31,306 lbs. empty/38,874 lbs. gross
Armament: Designed for one 75mm cannon and two .50-cal. machine guns --or-- four 37mm cannons. Two rear-firing power turrets with two .50-cal. machine guns each.
Engines: Two turbo-supercharged Allison V-3420-11/13 engines of 2,600 hp. each
PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 430 mph. at 25,000 ft.
Cruising speed: 274 mph.
Service ceiling: 38,400 ft.
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p58.htm | | |
| | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:57 AM. | | |
