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01-21-2005, 06:11 PM
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#856 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | Splendid pics.  | 
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01-21-2005, 10:51 PM
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#857 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Except the Swastika has been blocked, for no reason.
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01-21-2005, 11:42 PM
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#858 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | Great pics!
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01-22-2005, 03:14 AM
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#859 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Blocking the Swastika seems a lttle silly but im sure they have their reasons...
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01-22-2005, 03:21 AM
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#860 | | Senior Member
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01-22-2005, 03:23 AM
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01-22-2005, 09:25 AM
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#862 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Yeah, lets just block 'em out and pretend they never existed. Life is rosey! La La La La La La La....   | |
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01-22-2005, 10:50 AM
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#863 | | the old Sage
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Country: | the swastika symbol was banned as a hate symbol of an evil regime several years ago in Germany. Firstly and historically for decals of WW 2 a/c. Every German militaria site is required by law to blot/cover all swastika's in war footage whether single stills or movies, adds, commercials, etc.....medals, documents.
also in effect although not sure if this is true or not but from what I am hearing there is a ban being pushed throughout all of Europe to remove the symbol from anything having to do with the old 3rd Reich and WW 2 in general. This is besides the showing of photographs. Documents, stone memorials, posters, any reading materials.... | |
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01-22-2005, 10:58 AM
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#864 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | I've heard that too, about the possible ban throughout Europe. All brought on by the Prince Harry incident.
I can understand the idea of banning hate symbols, but I still think political correctness is getting quite out of hand.
I don't want to take things way off track, so I won't say any more about it. | |
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01-22-2005, 11:00 AM
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#865 | | Forum Politruk
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Country:  | Still, what happened, happened, and there it is. The Swastika is much, much older than the Third Reich anyway. In houses in India, it's above the doorways with small dots inside each of the 'hooks'. I think to ban it is a mistake. People who are into their Neo-Nazi ideas aren't going to worry about a ban, and by banning the symbol it gives it some kind of unjustified mystique. Far better to have it there, and make sure people are properly aware of all it stood for between 1933-45. | |
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01-22-2005, 12:29 PM
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| Erich, those are formidable photos!
Medvedya: you made an excellent point.
The hammer and the sickle of the soviet union flag should actually receive a more agressive treatment and be properly banned, not only across Europe, but across the entire earth. If the sole view of swastikas is offensive to many, the symbol of the hammer and the sickle should be then a universal offense to mankind.
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01-22-2005, 12:50 PM
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#867 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Erich the swastika symbol was banned as a hate symbol of an evil regime several years ago in Germany. Firstly and historically for decals of WW 2 a/c. Every German militaria site is required by law to blot/cover all swastika's in war footage whether single stills or movies, adds, commercials, etc.....medals, documents.
also in effect although not sure if this is true or not but from what I am hearing there is a ban being pushed throughout all of Europe to remove the symbol from anything having to do with the old 3rd Reich and WW 2 in general. This is besides the showing of photographs. Documents, stone memorials, posters, any reading materials.... | You are correct about the ban and I think it is quite stupid. I have quite a collection of Third Reich Uniforms and several museums, libraries and even the US installation Panzer Kaserne in Stuttgart some times lend my uniforms for display purposes. Whenever I leave the house and take them to the place where they will be on disply I have to cover up the swastika's with tape and keep them from being seen, so I normally put them in protective cases to keep them out of sight but I think it is a bit rediculous.
The swastika goes back much farther than the Nazi's and in some Native American Indian tribes it means friendship. I have even seen Roman Artifacts with swastikas on them. To ban a symbol I think is obsurd, it is just like the Confederate flag being banned in the United States. It is a piece of cloth and means nothing more but some consider it a symbol of hatred and slavery. I think they should grow up, it is a part of history.
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01-22-2005, 01:23 PM
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#868 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | I'm sure someone in the world finds the red maple leaf offensive.  | |
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01-22-2005, 03:03 PM
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#869 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | Probably the French, they find everything offensive
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01-22-2005, 04:01 PM
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#870 | | Minister of Whoopass
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