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Old 05-10-2004, 01:44 PM   #31
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Very big.
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Yes, very, very big. The B-52 is the best bomber of that kind to be created, it's combat record proves it.
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:07 AM   #33
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During the First Gulf War, several Iraqi units surrendered not because they were attack by B-52 but because they had seen units that had! Now that is an effective weapon.
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Old 05-11-2004, 07:19 AM   #34
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but it has no defencive armourment.............
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:10 PM   #35
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Up through the B-52G there were 4 .50cal machine guns in a remote tail turret. In the B-52H they were replaced by a single Vulcan 20mm cannon. But of course (as you Brits well know) it is the electronic defenses that are most important now. Although, I know the B-52 managed to shoot down at least 2 MiGs over Vietnam.
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And I've heard they can be fitted with air to air missiles anyway. Their record shows their effectivness, nothing can beat them in their role. They can launch nukes, cruises or just a lot of conventional bombs.
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Old 05-11-2004, 04:47 PM   #37
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does anyone have some stats for the b-52 or b-36? i havent seen any yet and it would be interesting to see some
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Old 05-11-2004, 11:54 PM   #38
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The B-52 can carry 80,000lbs of conventional bombs. That should be all the stats you need.
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:16 AM   #39
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i wanted more really... but still
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i'll get you more to morrow.......................

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that's because there are no other real heavy bombers out there.................
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Old 05-12-2004, 01:59 PM   #41
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can anyone tell me what the first two planes are please?
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The basic weight of a B-52H model was about 180,000 lbs with 220,000 lbs of fuel and their alert load was 502,000 lbs. that leaves 102,000 lbs for bombs. But the B-52H cofigured for an alert carried 2 Hound dog missles on pylons. Without these missles installed I wonder if they could carry 102,000 lbs of iron bombs. The earlier model B-52's had lower powered jet engines (J-57's) with water injection for takeoff. The B-52H model had the TF-33 P-3 jet engines with a lot more thrust without water injection.
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Lancaster, I believe that the first plane is a de Haviland DH 4.
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No there aren't any more heavy bombers Lanc, but the B-52 has been set to be retired for decades. In USAAF standards it is a classic aircraft now, it should be in museums.
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But as a stand-off cruise missile platform there is nothing to replace it. And I believe it is still the only platform in the USAF capable of using the AGM-142 Have Nap missle. There was a design study done a couple decades ago about using a modified 747 to launch something like 70 cruise missiles but nothing ever came of it.
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