 | Diesel or Petrol engines?| Old Threads Discuss Diesel or Petrol engines? in the Old Stuff forums; it wouldnt ind im talking overweight as in styling though the bentley is very heavy and somehow i dont think ... |
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05-03-2004, 04:39 PM
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#76 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country:  | it wouldnt  ind im talking overweight as in styling  though the bentley is very heavy  and somehow i dont think bentley would use a diesel, british manufacturers tend to avoid oil burners
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05-05-2004, 03:04 PM
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#77 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | ha! i've never seen a oil burner powered car...........
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05-05-2004, 04:56 PM
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Country: | oil burner = what traders call diesels
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05-08-2004, 02:22 PM
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#79 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | ah! i see, you could have told me that, i saw the strangest think today diesil's 1p more expensive than petrol..........
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05-10-2004, 11:21 AM
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Country: | i know the only way to save money in a diesel is to run it for a good few years, as the majority of diesel cars cost a couple of hundred £ more than thier petrol equivalent
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05-11-2004, 08:43 AM
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#81 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | we get our petrol straight from the company, we get it cheaper that way............
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05-11-2004, 08:56 AM
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05-14-2004, 02:23 PM
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#83 | | Master of Ewes
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05-14-2004, 03:12 PM
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05-16-2004, 08:27 AM
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#85 | | Master of Ewes
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05-16-2004, 11:00 AM
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Country:  | In NZ Diesel is still under half the price of petrol per litre.
However, Diesel engines in aircraft, there was the JU 86 and as well this beastie  Quote:
Technical data (BV 138C-1)
Type: Long-range Maritime Reconnaissance Flying Boat
Power Plant: Three Junkers Jumo 205 D six-cylinder vertical opposed-piston compression-ignition two-stroke engines, each rated at 880hp for take-off. TWO-STROKE F'R GOODNESS SAKE!
Armament: One 20-mm MG 151 cannon in bow turret, one 20-mm MG 151 cannon mounted in turret in hull tail, and one 13-mm MG 131 machine gun on open position aft of central engine, plus (optional) one 7.9-mm MG 15 machine gun firing through hatch in starboard side of hull. (Offensive) Three 110-lb. bombs on racks beneath the starboard wing centre section, or (U1) six 110-lb. bombs or four 331-lb. depth charges.
Performance:
maximum speed: 177 m.p.h. at sea level (at 31967 lb.)
normal cruising speed: 146 m.p.h. at 3280 ft.
climb to 10390 ft.: 24 min.
service ceiling at 31967 lb.: 16400 ft.
service ceiling at 38912 lb.: 9185 ft.
normal range: 758 miles at 122 m.p.h.
maximum range: 2670 miles with 825 Imp. gal.
normal endurance: 6.5 hrs
maximum endurance: 18 hrs
Weights:
empty: 25948 lb.
normal loaded: 31967 lb.
maximum loaded: 38912 lb.
Dimensions:
span: 88 ft. 4.25 in.
length: 65 ft. 1.5 in.
height: 19 ft. 4.25 in.
wing area: 1205.558 sq. ft.
Versions
Prototypes:
Ha 138 V1 - (D-ARAK), flew 15.7.37
Ha 138 V2 - (D-AMOR), flew 8.37, redesigned
Ha 138 V3 - never completed, scrapped
Models:
BV 138A-0 - 6 delivered 1939, 1st flew 2.39, one modified to B-0 standard
BV 138A-1 - 25 delivered 1939-40, 1st tested 4.40
BV 138B-0 - 10 delivered 1940, normal loaded weight increased from 30313 lb. to 31930 lb.
BV 138B-1 - 21 delivered from 12.40, Jumo 205 D engines, increased defensive armament
BV 138B-1/U1 - offensive load increased, see armament above
BV 138C-1 - delivered from 3.41, structural strengthening, four-bladed airscrew, a 13-mm MG 131 replaced the 7.9-mm MG 15 machine gun, and an optional 7.9-mm MG 15 could be added. Some were later fitted with the FuG 200 Hohentwiel radar. About 70 BV 138C-1 were fitted with with catapult points for operation from the Luftwaffe's seaplane tenders.
BV 138C-1/U1 - similar to B-1/U1 version
BV 138MS - few BV138C-1 were converted to minesweepers in 1942-43, no armament, dural hoop used to sweep mines (see image above).
Production:
1939: Blohm & Voss (Finkenwerder), 6
1940: Blohm & Voss (Finkenwerder), 49
1941: Blohm & Voss (Finkenwerder), 79; Weser Flugzeugbau (Einswarden), 1
1942: Blohm & Voss (Finkenwerder), 59; Weser Flugzeugbau (Einswarden), 66 (total for 1942/43)
1943: Blohm & Voss (Finkenwerder), 30; Weser Flugzeugbau (Einswarden), 66 (total for 1942/43)
Units:
Küstenfliegergruppe 406
Küstenfliegergruppe 506
Küstenfliegergruppe 906
Seeaufklärungsgruppe 125
Seeaufklärungsgruppe 126
Seeaufklärungsgruppe 129
Seeaufklärungsgruppe 130
Seeaufklärungsgruppe 131
Küstenflieger-Ergänzungsstaffel 138
Minensuch-Gruppe 1 der Luftwaffe
Kampfgruppe zur besonderen Verwendung 108
Exports: No exports
Preserved aircraft: None survives today.
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05-16-2004, 02:25 PM
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maximum endurance: 18 hrs
| wow, the crew would need to stop before the plane!!!!!
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05-16-2004, 02:28 PM
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05-16-2004, 02:30 PM
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#90 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | it wasn't a joke, endurance means how long it can stay in the air, the crew would need to stop before the plane...............
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