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01-24-2005, 11:47 PM
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01-25-2005, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cougar Quote: |
Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass and the B-17 was useless wht compared to the B-17.......... | Dont judge it until youve been in one | Too right! I enjoyed "Memphis Belle" a damn sight more than I enjoyed "The Dambusters" 
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01-25-2005, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB.inVa What kinda radar suite did the Lincoln have? All Ive seen mentioned was the H2S but was wondering if theyre was more.
Id still take a B-29 for night bombing over the Lancaster or Lincoln if all 3 were available. | the argument in question stems from american crews in american planes compared to british crew in british planes, we (the british) knew how to bomb at night, we'd been doing it for years, and we weren't bad at it, the americans on the other had bombed mostly by day so had no experience at night so in the instance of night bombing a british crew in a british plane would be the better choise............
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01-25-2005, 03:41 PM
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Country: | The B-29 makes so much more sense. Faster, better ceiling, better range, could carry more than the Lancaster further, stronger, better armoured. Name me one area in which the Lancaster was superior to the B-29...
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01-25-2005, 03:44 PM
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Country: | The names Tallboy and Grand Slam come to mind, also would you do the dambusters raid in B-29s?
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01-25-2005, 04:21 PM
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Country: | Grandslams were fitted to B-29's after the war  Carrying a tallboy would be nothing, but because it was an American plane I dont think they would be using British bombs 
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01-25-2005, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquitoman The names Tallboy and Grand Slam come to mind, also would you do the dambusters raid in B-29s? | The Abomb comes to mind (though the Lanc could probably be fitted up for one - same difference) as for the dam busters why not? The B-29 flew fine on the deck and the extra speed may have helped considering the short range and light bomb load (for a B-29). My dad (as a crew cheif)flew them low on occasion though it was rare and frowned on (Safety issue) and only done for short distances, a lark so to speak, it could be done easily.
We have B-52s with 70,000lb bomb loads doing "nap of the earth" flying, why not a B-29? |
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01-25-2005, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass Quote: |
Apache (Dont know hich one, but what ever one comes with 72 Hellfire missiles )
| no one Apache model comes with 72 helfire missiles, the aircraft can be fitted with 148 (i think, not to sure) unguided rockets, 16 helfire or a combination of both and 4 sidewinders.................... | Max load of a AH-64 is:
Main Winglets:
76 Hydras (4 x 19 round pods)
16 Hellfires (4 x 4 round groups)
Mix of above.
Wingtips:
Single ARM-122 Sidearm
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FIM-92 Stinger AAM Twinpack.
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1 x M-230 30mm Cannon (~1200 rounds IIRC) |
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01-25-2005, 10:03 PM
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| OK top 5 Hmmmmm:
1. DH.98 Mosquito
2. F-16 Falcon (Viper)
3. F-14 (Tomcat)
4. MH-53M Pave Low IV
5. XB-70 Valkrie |
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01-25-2005, 10:29 PM
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| The B-29B also had the AN/APQ-7 Eagle radar. It was a wing shaped unit that was slung between the bomb bays where the AN/APQ-13 was on most other B-29's. The AN/APQ-7 was a better radar than was the H2S or H2X (thats basically what the AN/APQ-13 was anyway). All I'd read said the Lincoln had an H2S. Its hard to find stuff on it anyway, I wish theyre was as much info about it as you can find about the Lancaster! I did read about a version of the Lincoln that had 2 20mm cannon in the mid upper turret, thats pretty cool!
British or American... I think it wouldnt hurt to have a better radar!! Even then Id still go with the B-29.
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01-25-2005, 11:26 PM
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| The discusion about the Lanc dropping a nuke has already run. Post war, the Lincoln wasn't considered a very useful bomber because it would most likely be unable to escape the blasty of a nuke. The Lanc wouldn't have been any better.
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01-26-2005, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cheddar cheese The B-29 makes so much more sense. Faster, better ceiling, better range, could carry more than the Lancaster further, stronger, better armoured. Name me one area in which the Lancaster was superior to the B-29... | but the american crews would have a clue what they were doing at night!!!! we on the other hand did, yes the B-29 was a better bomber than the lanc, but not if the crue doesn't know what it's doing, and why do you assume i'm thinking of using the lancaster?? why can't i use a lincoln??
and about the B-29 on the dams raid, it was to big and whilst i can't say this for sure as i don't know, i doubt it was manouverable enough, the B-29's speed would have been of no advantage as the raid had to be done at a set speed.....................
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01-26-2005, 03:36 PM
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#253 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Wait a minute Lanc, the B-29s did do night bombing of Japan for the Tokyo firebombing raids. They knew how to bomb at night.
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01-26-2005, 04:02 PM
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| And technologically they were better equipped with a more advanced radar set than any Lanc. Still, I suppose we should be impressed you finally acknowledged that the Lanc wasn't the best bomber in the war.
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01-26-2005, 04:33 PM
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the B-29's speed would have been of no advantage as the raid had to be done at a set speed.....................
| For the escape and the flight over there it would...
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