Favorite 5 Aircraft- All Eras Allowed.

cheddar cheese · 12-31-2004, 03:38 PM

Read my above post lanc...

The Jug Rules! · 01-04-2005, 01:35 PM

[quote="Nonskimmer"]1) F-22 Raptor (damn defence cuts!

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I was wondeing what happened to the F-22!

The Jug Rules! · 01-04-2005, 01:39 PM

X-P72

X-F5u( flying flapjack)

P-47n

P-39 (X model before they screwed it up

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F-22

A-10

cheddar cheese · 01-04-2005, 01:53 PM

XP-39? Thats pretty strange, I always preferred the P-39Q. Mind you, I only like VVS P-39's....

The Jug Rules! · 01-05-2005, 01:34 PM

The x model had an Allison supercharged engine with intercooler, and could have reached speeds close to 400. It also had a longer span wing and a roomier cockpit. But, the Q models were O.k too.

They also had an experimental model of the P-38. I think that it was called the K. (not sure) It was a modified E with Hamilton Standard 3-blade props. It could have really did something, if the morons would have waited a few weeks for the factory to change over. I'll try to find the article.

The Jug Rules! · 01-05-2005, 01:37 PM

Could someone please tell me what is an EE Lightning????

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-05-2005, 02:04 PM

yes CC that's exactily my list so far

how did you know??

cheddar cheese · 01-05-2005, 02:54 PM

Well it wasnt really difficult was it

EE Lightning - English Electic Lightning, Perhaps the best Jet Interceptor of all time...

Yeah the P-38K would have been good. Instead that went on with the L model though...but that was ok too

plan_D · 01-06-2005, 02:29 AM

My god, someone didn't know what an EE Lightning was. It was the best interceptor for the majority of the cold war, it was the only thing that could reach the altitude of the Soviet bombers until the F-4 Phantom. Mach 2.3 - 60,000 ft - 1947 Design - "Beauty to fly, bugger to fix"

5 Sqn. F.6 Lightning intercepting a Tu-95 Bear. Different squadrons (As well as my dads 11 Sqn.) intercepted Bears and Bisons everyday during the 60s and 70s.

evangilder · 01-06-2005, 08:02 AM

One more thing about the Lightning. It was the first fighter to have a 1:1 thrust to weight ratio or better, meaning it would not lose speed in a straight up climb. I got to see one fly several times at air shows while I was in England. I gotta say I thought it was really cool. Here is one of my old shots of it. Not a very good shot, but you can see how low he was for the pass. No, he was NOT taking off!

plan_D · 01-06-2005, 08:15 AM

You know that engine thing is wrong. The combined thrust of the two Rolls Royce Avon engines is above the weight of the Lightning when empty. This means, no fuel. That means, the Lightning isn't going to go anywhere.
When the Lightning has fuel it's heavier than it's thrust. It does lose speed when it's gaining altitude, just not much. The Lightning Sqn. were told to stop taking off vertically because of the stress on the air frame - the riggers used to complain.

11 Sqn. F.6 Lightning. Those things got really hot in the Cyprus sun, I'm told.

evangilder · 01-06-2005, 09:09 AM

Hmm, I was told about the thrust to weight ratio several times bydifferent people, but then, maybe it was one of those things that one person said and it spread. Either way, it was one heck of an airplane.

plan_D · 01-06-2005, 09:51 AM

A lot of people make that mistake. Yes, the thrust of the engines is more than the weight of the aircraft but only when the aircraft is empty which means no fuel.

evangilder · 01-06-2005, 10:05 AM

Fuel is kind of important!

cheddar cheese · 01-06-2005, 11:01 AM

Unless we're talking about gliders