 | Junkers Ju88| Old Threads Discuss Junkers Ju88 in the Old Stuff forums; Their tank guns good knock the Panzers in North Africa out, where the D was used.
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05-03-2004, 05:36 AM
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Country: | Their tank guns good knock the Panzers in North Africa out, where the D was used.
Those Fw190 needed their own escort though, they were so slow and unmanuverable.
The A-36 couldn't match the Il-2 in tankbusting, but it had a much higher survival rate and it did a good enough job.
And those PTAB 2.5 were only useful if the tanks were bunched or more ideally in a column.
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05-03-2004, 01:51 PM
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The A-36 couldn't match the Il-2 in tankbusting, but it had a much higher survival rate
| proberly because the A-36 saw ery little combat?
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05-03-2004, 02:40 PM
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| The PTABs were limited in their utility, but it would be years before any western nation had anything similar. The potential was there.
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05-04-2004, 07:22 AM
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Country: | The A-36 saw plenty of combat in North Africa, Italy and India.
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05-04-2004, 07:24 AM
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Country: | i would stil prefere to be in a IL-2................
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05-04-2004, 07:45 AM
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Country: | I'd want to be in the A-36 I'm not very patient and the Il-2 would be too slow for my liking.
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05-04-2004, 10:49 AM
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| Once the shooting started, I would rather be in an Il-2 . . . I mean that think was a tank with wings!
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05-04-2004, 11:20 AM
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Country: | I'd still rather be in the A-36 I could be much more evasive, and maybe have the chance of an air kill in it.
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05-04-2004, 11:38 AM
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Country: | nope im stiking with the others and saying il-2 
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05-04-2004, 11:47 AM
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Country: | You lot go ahead and get ripped to pieces, the 'concrete plane' can't stay in the air forever.
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05-04-2004, 12:00 PM
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Country: | neither can an A-36  ripped to pieces? not a phrase one associates with il-2;s... 
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05-04-2004, 12:11 PM
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Country: | One does when the AA gunners are firing 88mm at you, and you have 190s on your tail with no way of shaking them.
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05-04-2004, 12:26 PM
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Country: | could just ram 'em 
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05-04-2004, 12:27 PM
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Country: | You could but most likely your aircraft would fall out of the sky as well...although I have heard of a Soviet pilot ramming two He111s and getting home safely, he was in a P-39 though I think.
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Country: | the Polikarpov I-16 was effective at ramming planes 
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