Junkers Ju88 - Aircraft of World War II

jj1982 · 03-23-2004, 07:49 AM

Just a few words about one of my fav planes of WW2..Luftwaffe doesnt get much mention so i thought i would change that!

One of the War's most versatile aircraft, the Junkers Ju88 was a mainstay of the German Luftwaffe throughout the war. It was one of the very few aircraft that could roam the skies over Britain without being vulnerable. It was tough, fast, and rather maneuverable for a bomber. That led to a later role for the Ju88: Night-Fighter. The Ju-88 was used in nearly every campaign, from Convoy bomber to Flying bomb.

Exceeded only by the Mosquito in sheer number of forms and purposes, the Ju88 had a long history before the war. It was first flown as a civil prototype. The design process had been rapid. (Led by two Americans, temporarily hired, who were experts in modern stressed-skin construction.) The Ju88 never flew in a civil role, however, being almost immediately turned into a bomber. These A-1 bombers were heavier, and slower, but more capacious. These were just entering service when war began. The generally good performance and formidable bomb load were offset by wholly inadequate defensive armament. The A-4 increased the span, and the bomb load and gun power was augmented. This was the base on which diverse development would occur.
The Ju88 was structurally excellent, combined large internal capacity with a great load-carrying capacity. It was also never degraded in performance to the point where it became vulnerable, as were it's Dornier and Heinkel stablemates. With the BMW Radial and the Jumo 213 engines, the later Ju88s were almost as fast as contemporary fighters, at all altitudes, and could be violenty aerobatted as well. One of the 88's basic design feature was that the crew was huddled together, obstensibly to improve combat morale. This made it difficult to add proper defensive armament. In the period of 1940-43, over 2,000 Ju88s were built each year. (Nearly all A-5 or A-4 variants)

After splitting off into two completely new branches, the Ju188 and 388, the bomber's development was shifted to the streamlined S-series of high performance bombers, as it had been accepted that traditional Luftwaffe bombers were doomed if intercepted, no matter how much armament was carried. Due to this conclusion , bomb and fuel loads were greatly reduced in the S-series and all sub-variants. The G series were the night fighters, and the final series, P, was for big-gun anti-armour aircraft, the Nbwe with flame-throwers and recoilless rocket projectors. Another was a large family of Mistel composite-aircraft combinations, in which the Ju88 lower portion was a pilot-less missile steered by the fighter mounted on top. (Unconfirmed reports spoke of Trainers, but these most likely were mis-identifications of Mistels, or another kind of trainer.) Altogether, Bomber, Reconaissance, and related Ju88s totaled 10,774, while the frantic construction of Night-fighter versions in 1944-45 brought the total to at least 14,980. The Night fighters were extremely formidable, bristling with radar and weapons. These were responsible for destroying more Allied night bombers than all other fighters combined.

Technical Data for Ju88:

Origin: Junkers Flugzeug und Motorenwerke AG, dispersed among 14 plants with subcontract or assembly by ATG. Opel. Volkswagen and various French groups.
Type: Military aircraft designed as dive bomber but developed for level bombing, close support, night fighting, torpedo dropping, reconnaisance and as a pilotless missle. Two to six crewmembers.
Engines: (A-4) two 1,340hp Junkers Jumo 211J 12-cylinder inverted-vee liquid-cooled. (G-7) two 1,880hp Junkers Jumo 213E 12-cylinder inverted-vee liquid-cooled; (S-1) two 1,700hp BMW 801G 18-cylinder two-row radials.
Dimensions: Span 65ft 10.5 in (20.13m), (early versions 59ft 10 3/4in); length 47ft, 2 1/4 in (14.4m); (G-7, 54ft 1 1/2 in); height 15ft 11in (4.85m); (C-6) 16ft 7 1/2 in (5m)
Weights: Empty (A-4) 17,637lb (8000kg); (C-6b) 19,090lb (8660kg). (G-7b) 20,062lb (9100kg); (S-1) 18,300lb (8300kg); maximum loaded (A-4) 30,865lb (14,000kg); (C-6b) 27,500lb (12,485kg); (G-7b) 32,350lb (14,690kg); (S-1) 23,000lb (10,490kg)
Performance: Maximum speed (A-4) 269mph (433 km/h); (C-6b) 300mph (480km/h); (G-7b) 402mph (643 km/h); (S-1) 373mph (600km/h); initial climb (A-4) 1,312ft (400m) /min; (S-1) 1,804ft (550m) /min; service ceiling (A-4) 26,900ft (8200m); (C-6b) 32,480ft (9900m); (G-7b) 28,870ft (8800m); (S-1) 36,090ft (11,000m); range (A-4) 1,112 miles (1790km); (C-6b) 1,243 miles (2000km); (G-7b) 1,430miles (2300km); (S-1) 1,243 miles (2000km)
Armament: Various
Users: Bulgaria (briefly), Finland, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Romania.

cheddar cheese · 03-23-2004, 08:25 AM

interesting stuff

ive always like the 88, and this thread has give me an idea to replace the ageing b-17 vs lancaster one........ so i propose:

JUNKERS JU-88 vs. DE HAVILLAND MOSQUITO

jj1982 · 03-23-2004, 12:13 PM

oooooooohhhhhhhh thats a good un! I know which side bronze will come down on! The mossie!

jj1982 · 03-23-2004, 01:14 PM

well CC, i done it...Ju88 vs Mossie is now up and running....quick get your argument in.....Ju88 gotta win!

Huckebein · 03-23-2004, 01:24 PM

Wha...!? I gotta defend my darling dH 98!!!

jj1982 · 03-23-2004, 01:57 PM

Oh ****....jsut my luck to have a couple of fanatics defending the wooden bomber!

kiwimac · 03-23-2004, 02:06 PM

Ha! the Mosquito sucks! JU88 Rulez!

FVS Kiwimac

jj1982 · 03-23-2004, 02:24 PM

thankyou kiwimac!

bronzewhaler82 · 03-24-2004, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwimac

Ha! the Mosquito sucks! JU88 Rulez!

FVS Kiwimac

Oh my god...Kiwimac is delierious! He doesn't know what hes saying!

Quick someone slap him!

jj1982 · 03-24-2004, 09:24 AM

Oh my lawd! Watford Gap 'im???I think my friend i' is yew who needs a nang Watford Gap. Only kiddin' China (plate) . Lumme!

the lancaster kicks ass · 03-24-2004, 09:35 AM

stop showing off.............

jj1982 · 03-24-2004, 11:11 AM

ok sorry....

cheddar cheese · 03-24-2004, 12:46 PM

mosquito was the better plane, the 88 is my personal preferance of the 2 though

bronzewhaler82 · 03-25-2004, 02:22 PM

If the JU88 was that much cop...why did the Germans pack them with explosives, attach them to either a Me109 or a FW190 (to guide them on target) and then fly them unmanned into enemy positions and ships to blow them up? something called the 'Mistel' project.

A bit of a dubious thing to have on your CV wouldn't you say?

the lancaster kicks ass · 03-25-2004, 02:34 PM

i definatly prefere the mosquito, just for it's better performance..........

03-23-2004, 07:49 AM	#1
jj1982 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 216	Junkers Ju88 Just a few words about one of my fav planes of WW2..Luftwaffe doesnt get much mention so i thought i would change that! One of the War's most versatile aircraft, the Junkers Ju88 was a mainstay of the German Luftwaffe throughout the war. It was one of the very few aircraft that could roam the skies over Britain without being vulnerable. It was tough, fast, and rather maneuverable for a bomber. That led to a later role for the Ju88: Night-Fighter. The Ju-88 was used in nearly every campaign, from Convoy bomber to Flying bomb. Exceeded only by the Mosquito in sheer number of forms and purposes, the Ju88 had a long history before the war. It was first flown as a civil prototype. The design process had been rapid. (Led by two Americans, temporarily hired, who were experts in modern stressed-skin construction.) The Ju88 never flew in a civil role, however, being almost immediately turned into a bomber. These A-1 bombers were heavier, and slower, but more capacious. These were just entering service when war began. The generally good performance and formidable bomb load were offset by wholly inadequate defensive armament. The A-4 increased the span, and the bomb load and gun power was augmented. This was the base on which diverse development would occur. The Ju88 was structurally excellent, combined large internal capacity with a great load-carrying capacity. It was also never degraded in performance to the point where it became vulnerable, as were it's Dornier and Heinkel stablemates. With the BMW Radial and the Jumo 213 engines, the later Ju88s were almost as fast as contemporary fighters, at all altitudes, and could be violenty aerobatted as well. One of the 88's basic design feature was that the crew was huddled together, obstensibly to improve combat morale. This made it difficult to add proper defensive armament. In the period of 1940-43, over 2,000 Ju88s were built each year. (Nearly all A-5 or A-4 variants) After splitting off into two completely new branches, the Ju188 and 388, the bomber's development was shifted to the streamlined S-series of high performance bombers, as it had been accepted that traditional Luftwaffe bombers were doomed if intercepted, no matter how much armament was carried. Due to this conclusion , bomb and fuel loads were greatly reduced in the S-series and all sub-variants. The G series were the night fighters, and the final series, P, was for big-gun anti-armour aircraft, the Nbwe with flame-throwers and recoilless rocket projectors. Another was a large family of Mistel composite-aircraft combinations, in which the Ju88 lower portion was a pilot-less missile steered by the fighter mounted on top. (Unconfirmed reports spoke of Trainers, but these most likely were mis-identifications of Mistels, or another kind of trainer.) Altogether, Bomber, Reconaissance, and related Ju88s totaled 10,774, while the frantic construction of Night-fighter versions in 1944-45 brought the total to at least 14,980. The Night fighters were extremely formidable, bristling with radar and weapons. These were responsible for destroying more Allied night bombers than all other fighters combined. Technical Data for Ju88: Origin: Junkers Flugzeug und Motorenwerke AG, dispersed among 14 plants with subcontract or assembly by ATG. Opel. Volkswagen and various French groups. Type: Military aircraft designed as dive bomber but developed for level bombing, close support, night fighting, torpedo dropping, reconnaisance and as a pilotless missle. Two to six crewmembers. Engines: (A-4) two 1,340hp Junkers Jumo 211J 12-cylinder inverted-vee liquid-cooled. (G-7) two 1,880hp Junkers Jumo 213E 12-cylinder inverted-vee liquid-cooled; (S-1) two 1,700hp BMW 801G 18-cylinder two-row radials. Dimensions: Span 65ft 10.5 in (20.13m), (early versions 59ft 10 3/4in); length 47ft, 2 1/4 in (14.4m); (G-7, 54ft 1 1/2 in); height 15ft 11in (4.85m); (C-6) 16ft 7 1/2 in (5m) Weights: Empty (A-4) 17,637lb (8000kg); (C-6b) 19,090lb (8660kg). (G-7b) 20,062lb (9100kg); (S-1) 18,300lb (8300kg); maximum loaded (A-4) 30,865lb (14,000kg); (C-6b) 27,500lb (12,485kg); (G-7b) 32,350lb (14,690kg); (S-1) 23,000lb (10,490kg) Performance: Maximum speed (A-4) 269mph (433 km/h); (C-6b) 300mph (480km/h); (G-7b) 402mph (643 km/h); (S-1) 373mph (600km/h); initial climb (A-4) 1,312ft (400m) /min; (S-1) 1,804ft (550m) /min; service ceiling (A-4) 26,900ft (8200m); (C-6b) 32,480ft (9900m); (G-7b) 28,870ft (8800m); (S-1) 36,090ft (11,000m); range (A-4) 1,112 miles (1790km); (C-6b) 1,243 miles (2000km); (G-7b) 1,430miles (2300km); (S-1) 1,243 miles (2000km) Armament: Various Users: Bulgaria (briefly), Finland, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Romania. __________________ just love those laser guided bombs they're really great for righting wrongs you hit the target...play the game from bars 3000 miles away so you play the game with the bravery of being out of range

03-23-2004, 12:13 PM	#3
jj1982 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 216	oooooooohhhhhhhh thats a good un! I know which side bronze will come down on! The mossie! __________________ just love those laser guided bombs they're really great for righting wrongs you hit the target...play the game from bars 3000 miles away so you play the game with the bravery of being out of range

03-23-2004, 01:14 PM	#4
jj1982 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 216	well CC, i done it...Ju88 vs Mossie is now up and running....quick get your argument in.....Ju88 gotta win! __________________ just love those laser guided bombs they're really great for righting wrongs you hit the target...play the game from bars 3000 miles away so you play the game with the bravery of being out of range

03-23-2004, 01:24 PM	#5
Huckebein Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 80	Wha...!? I gotta defend my darling dH 98!!! __________________ Tactical Recconnaisance Bf 109G-6, Balkans 1944. Download at www.il2skins.com

03-23-2004, 01:57 PM	#6
jj1982 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 216	Oh ****....jsut my luck to have a couple of fanatics defending the wooden bomber! __________________ just love those laser guided bombs they're really great for righting wrongs you hit the target...play the game from bars 3000 miles away so you play the game with the bravery of being out of range

03-23-2004, 08:25 AM	#2
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	interesting stuff ive always like the 88, and this thread has give me an idea to replace the ageing b-17 vs lancaster one........ so i propose: JUNKERS JU-88 vs. DE HAVILLAND MOSQUITO

03-23-2004, 02:06 PM	#7
kiwimac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Deepest Darkest NZ Posts: 1,131	Ha! the Mosquito sucks! JU88 Rulez! FVS Kiwimac __________________

03-23-2004, 02:24 PM	#8
jj1982 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 216	thankyou kiwimac! __________________ just love those laser guided bombs they're really great for righting wrongs you hit the target...play the game from bars 3000 miles away so you play the game with the bravery of being out of range

03-24-2004, 09:24 AM	#10
jj1982 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 216	Oh my lawd! Watford Gap 'im???I think my friend i' is yew who needs a nang Watford Gap. Only kiddin' China (plate) . Lumme! __________________ just love those laser guided bombs they're really great for righting wrongs you hit the target...play the game from bars 3000 miles away so you play the game with the bravery of being out of range

03-24-2004, 09:35 AM	#11
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	stop showing off............. __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

03-24-2004, 11:11 AM	#12
jj1982 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 216	ok sorry.... __________________ just love those laser guided bombs they're really great for righting wrongs you hit the target...play the game from bars 3000 miles away so you play the game with the bravery of being out of range

03-24-2004, 12:46 PM	#13
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	mosquito was the better plane, the 88 is my personal preferance of the 2 though

03-25-2004, 02:22 PM	#14
bronzewhaler82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 661	If the JU88 was that much cop...why did the Germans pack them with explosives, attach them to either a Me109 or a FW190 (to guide them on target) and then fly them unmanned into enemy positions and ships to blow them up? something called the 'Mistel' project. A bit of a dubious thing to have on your CV wouldn't you say? __________________

03-25-2004, 02:34 PM	#15
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	i definatly prefere the mosquito, just for it's better performance.......... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

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