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01-13-2005, 11:48 AM
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#616 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | The French were just preperation and training for the Germans.
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01-13-2005, 11:56 AM
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#617 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | I'm glad the 101st US Airborne commander told De Gaulle to piss off! That twat wanted to be the first into the Eagles Nest, 101st weren't having any of it. The US Divisions should have done that to Paris too.
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01-13-2005, 11:57 AM
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#618 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country:  | You know its said that Hitler managed to take Poland so easy because his army walked in backwards and the Polish thought he was leaving...  I love that one...
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01-13-2005, 12:38 PM
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#619 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Ha, Ha that is funny.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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01-13-2005, 04:40 PM
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#620 | | Master of Ewes
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Frances mere existance meant Germany would have to waste time invading them before they got to us...they gave us "a bit" more time to prepare
| well even then in was british soldiers of the BEF that won us the most time................
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01-13-2005, 04:41 PM
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#621 | | Senior Member
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Country: | True, the only defeat suffered by the Germans during Fall Gelb was at the Battle of Arras. The BEF counter-attacked at Arras
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01-13-2005, 05:23 PM
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#622 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Well either way the whole victory in WW2 was accomplished by many different nations and there contributions.
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01-13-2005, 05:24 PM
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Country: | Yes. Yes it was
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01-13-2005, 05:36 PM
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#624 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Good we finally agree on this topic, well atleast until RG posts again.
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01-13-2005, 07:43 PM
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| DerAdler:
One thing is, in my opinion, crystal clear and would hardly admit any doubts or questions:
The entrance of the USA into the war is perhaps the definitive event of the war.
Not because its army was the best. After all, and I usually repeat this, on the first ground clash between Germans and USAers, the German troops taught the GIs a very very harsh and tough lesson, inflicting them a smashing defeat.
The central issue lies on the size of the country, its number of inhabitants, industrial capability and geography -far away enough to not be raided, attacked, bombed or savotaged-.
Any reasonable doubts on this? The military build up of the USA on both theathers: Pacific and Europe is proof more than clear and enough to validate this point.
The poor USSR was absolutely uncapable of conducting similar operations in the dimension displayed by the USA. Against Germany -and I digress: with the essential help of the Lend Lease- they conducted a massive effort throwing everyone and everything to the battlefield. Had Japan, however, attacked the USSR with its large but modestly equipped army from the far east the USSR would certainly had been placed in a coffin ready to be nailed and sent below the ground.
Letīs say of a scenario where the USA remains neutral to death. In such event Germany and the UK reach a stalemate (lucky sods to have the channel and the Royal Navy), but the USSR is brought down to its knees, forced by Germany to sign an armnistice and the Reich is certainly expanded eastwards for good.
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01-13-2005, 11:23 PM
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01-14-2005, 11:24 AM
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Country: | Lucky to have the Royal Navy. Not really luck when it built the thing up from the dawn of its Empire. The Royal Navy was the first official arm of the English armed forces, it's the senior service.
And you're forgetting the RAF, they stopped Hitler not the Royal Navy.
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01-14-2005, 12:02 PM
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#628 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I will agree with you on those points Udet. Yes the US entering the war was the definitive point and I think the way may have turned out a little bit different had they not, however I still stress the point that all the allies contributed to the whole victory in one way or another.
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01-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Good we finally agree on this topic, well atleast until RG posts again. | No, even I agree with this statement  | |
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01-14-2005, 03:55 PM
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#630 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but at the same time america would be useless without the british, where else are you gonna launch an invasion from??
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